and in fact many of his commands from there the fact that he happened to call himself the bosnian serb general or commander if you would was only a matter of convenience to in fact hide his true allegiances as for the notion of greater serbia that case still continues with gentleman's shilo pair say today and a verdict will be coming in soon as to what happened in kosovo as to what happened with american presence in the region i think on july eleventh we're not here to speak of that we're to speak air what happened in seventy and if we wish to open up that whole broader issue i'll be very happy to agree with you on one critical point which is that when it came to the safe area and i should emphasize here the nato protected zone of srebrenica that was betrayed by the u.s. by france by the u.k. at least by the officials of those countries when they made fact did not allow or did not respect the call of the dutch peace create peacekeepers to intervene with air support and once those once the serb it's a safe area came under attack by blood which is forces i believe that was not just an om

the serbs are just painted in the worst possible colors but a lot of serbs died in that conflict as well and they properly remembered because they were victims as well. you gentlemen have used the word serbs i never have the aggressor in this war i consider to belgrade and serbian not serve as a nationality but serbian as citizens or in this case as a regime i actually do not only knowledge of but i do have sorrow for all the victims of the war and i also should remind you that there were many serbs that is serbs as a nationality who defended sorry able and friend of bosnia-herzegovina probably one of the greatest heroes if not the greatest hero that sense of bosnia-herzegovina is a serb ethnic bosnia and herzegovina in general your bond there were many others in the government now so i have no qualms about honoring the memory of all the victims but we have to distinguish between a fascist policy and one that engage in ethnic cleansing and genocide to create ethnically pure territories and all the talk about what the united states and the western european countries are doing in the regio

perpetrators which was to ethnically cleanse this territory and to create purely at the cli clear serb territories and that is the other part of this situation that i think is so damned in the context of international law and today's political standards i'm afraid that while we talk of all the victims as you have introduced the subject it is appropriate people have suffered on all sides but what differentiates what belgrade and its proxy forces in bosnia herzegovina were doing here was to try to create an ethnically pure greater serbia and that would be the same thing as if you took the russian and and they german conflict in world war two many germans suffered but what differentiates the crimes committed by the nazis is their intent to create ethnically pure german areas and of course the invasion of the soviet union or if you would russia itself and i think those two situations are quite comparable ok me i mean i don't need to be in the middle of this here go right ahead you want to reply i just want to do so for the international court of justice. in the case of bosnia and herzegovi

with both committing atrocities against each other why then are only serbs being accused. well first of all kevin i should correct you there's only really been one war over those twenty years it's been the war to carve up yugoslavia to make it smaller and to destroy ultimately so it can become a series of small little satellite states beholden to a global superpower so there's only been one war and a series of conflicts as to why serbs generally are accused is to paint a picture because the tribunals have been set up to to accuse all serbian leaders of being and indeed serbs of being criminals while hiding the real criminals so the tribunals pointing finger is the one that the actual criminals who broke up the country hide behind and that's really why the serbs get the rough end of the stick now look at it go and have it he was indicted correct me get it get it from iraq if you will in two thousand and four that's thirteen years after the alleged atrocities why the long delay before the latest capture. well i think they basically forgot about him because he's really not a

war crimes horror fearing work in faces charges of genocide serbs the loss of their families during the bosnian war say justice is totally one sided. and i am in the russian capital you're watching r t with myriad joshie welcome to the program germany has agreed to supply munitions for the nato air strikes in libya the move comes despite berlin never originally backing the operation and some suggest peer pressure has caused a shift in position as ours is really go forwards berlin's attempt to have its cake and eat it may not be proving successful. more bombs wanted just over one hundred days of airstrikes and with just over two thousand bombs dropped by nato allies in libya the mission has run into an unexpected problem a lack of stealth to drop where there is demand there is surprise and this is their only has agreed to provide the much needed ammunition variously berlin house of pain from voting in favor of the u.n. security council resolution on libya a move that surprised some and hurt others but it may now be backing out of a decision the germans will not want to participate but ar

war crimes court hearing where he faces charges of genocide serbs lost their families during the bosnian war say justice is totally one sided. and in business russia resumes electricity supplies to the result of the comfort food it paid its energy gets more than twenty minutes. now i am in the russian capital you're watching r.t.m. arena josh welcome to the program germany has agreed to supply munitions for the nato air strikes in libya the move comes despite a girl and never originally backing the operation and some suggest peer pressure has caused a shift in position as artie's read english to reports berlin's attempt to have its cake and eat it may not be proving successful. more bombs wanted just over one hundred days of airstrikes and with just over two thousand bombs dropped by nato allies on libya the mission has run into an unexpected problem a lack of sales to drop where there is demand there is the why in this case germany has agreed to provide the much needed ammunition variously berlin has a from voting in favor of the u.n. security council resolution on libya a move that sur

his behalf and that he's facing charges including genocide carried out in the balkans war and some serbs accuse the hague of one sided justice . international news and comment live from moscow this is. russia or nato failed to reach a consensus on missile defense plans in europe with the unarmed standing firm on its position nato says it's against a joint anti missile shield and doesn't find it necessary to provide russia with legal guarantees that the shield won't be directed against it what does that tell you not about has more from russia city of sochi where the talks have now drawn to a close. russian foreign minister sergei lavrov described talks on a missile defense shield in europe as long and not going as smoothly as it was expected while speaking here separate press conference secretary general of nato rasmussen has never promised that those talks will simply happen overnight explains that the reason why our sectoral anti-missile defense shield for participation of russia is impossible is because nato cannot delegate the security of nato countries to a third party russian foreig

war crimes or during working faces charges of genocide serbs lost their families during the bosnian war say justice is totally one sided. and in russia they are in the my sa continue their winning streak taking from the previous week as they try to close the global games for market analysis in about twenty minutes in business. eleven am in the russian capital you're watching r t m arena joshie germany has agreed to supply munitions for the nato air strikes in libya the move comes the spy berlin never originally backing the operation and some suggest peer pressure has caused a shift in position as it is it really goes poor it's berlin's attempt to have its cake and eat it may not be proving successful. took more bombs wanted just over one hundred days of airstrikes and with just over two thousand bombs dropped by nato allies on libya the mission has run into an expected problem a lack of shells to drop were. there is demand there is supply and this is there only has agreed to provide the much needed ammunition previously berlin house of pain from voting in favor of the u.n. security coun

the former commander of the bosnian serb army which was you know. only a few weeks ago after he'd been on the run for a decade and a half it's not clear at all what events have led to these sudden arrests what is clear is as you said in your question that serbia the republic of serbia wants these men handed over in order to remove obstacles to joining the european union that's absolutely clear the government in belgrade has been determined to do this for a long time and for whatever reason it is now come up with two notable successive successes at least in its own terms well now that he has been arrested there will we see serbia joining the e.u. soon do you think oh not soon no i mean. e.u. membership takes a very long time even when obstacles like this have been cleared out of the way these arrests might enable serbia to become a candidate country but there's a long time lapse between becoming a candidate country and becoming a member states that can last. decades turkey for instance became a candidate country many many years ago and its membership

but one that was overrun by bosnian serb forces. the bosnian muslims thought they had the protection of dutch u.n. peace keepers. they were wrong. about 8,000 muslim men and boys were massacred by the bosnian serbs. today in a surprise legal ruling, a court in the netherlands decided that the dutch government bore some responsibility. the presiding judge said the appeals court believed the dutch state acted illegally towards three bosnian muslims and would have to pay compensation. it's been a long, painful legal ordeal for the relatives of the victims. >> i am after the killers of my family, the serbs, who live in bosnia. one of them even works in the same building where i work, can you imagine that? i have to go to my office every day to the same building, and he is still there. so believe me, it's just one of the cases i have been dealing with for the last 10, 15 years. >> the families have filed the lawsuit because the three bosnian men who were killed have been working for the dutch u.n. peace keepers. the outcome of the case s

but senators like these were the entire family of murdered serb civilians. are the very few remaining survivors but only comes here all the time his entire family lives here he says bosnian muslim general is responsible for his best but i do know that i was only nine years old when nasser all rich took away everything i had a right person killed my mother then my father and brother i was taken captive they helped me put fifty six days and only god knows why i survived. but even though gonna survive his loss just like that thousands of people here is being ignored or each was at the hague tribunal and i was supposed to be a witness in his trial but in the end me and about thirty other witnesses were simply cost a side they didn't cause you didn't ask what happened to our families and the tribunal only gave him two years in prison. the bulk of your story keenest atrocities visited an old sites and perpetrated by all players but the version most often propagated by western media is rather one sided ingraining the serbs. from the stream and create a rationale fo

that also has sent a special forces to the serb populated north after a tit for tat trade ban caused tension to flare up while police seize control over one border crossing while the other two are being blocked by local serbs because of us move has been widely condemned by the un and the e.u. among others and it's fear it will stoke ethnic anger will kossovo proclaim its independence in two thousand and eight when it unilaterally split from serbia now some six hundred. thousand serbs still live in the region but refuse to recognize cost of and sovereignty kosovo's independence has been a bone of contention between serbia and the e.u. which is pressing belgrade to recognise kossovo before it can become a member but joining us now is balkans expert an abortion a lot it thank you very much for being on the program well the tension is already boiling over in that area won't kossovo say that sending police to seize control of a checkpoint might just inflame the situation there. do you think living situation . to introduce the dream or you. to send a special forces this is direct slap in t

muslim men and boys were massacred by bosnian serb forces today and the morial for the deceased sits in the grounds of a former un military base the sort of thing it's a memorial ground as well maintained and frequently visited by locals journalists and tourists who get boston from the bosnian capital of what the tourists aren't shown are the thousands of serbian graves that lined cemeteries all around us that have been it's a region. thousands of people were killed during the balkan wars of the one nine hundred ninety s. but cemeteries like these with entire families of murdered serb civilians only get visited by the very few remaining survivors but only comes here all the time his entire family lives here he says a bosnian muslim general is responsible so you know i was only nine years old when this had already struck away everything i had in life first he killed my mother then my father and brother i was wounded and taken captive they held me for fifty six days and only god knows how or why i survived. but even though but on a survive his loss just like that of thousands of people

but former bosnian serb general reckon that it is likely to get a new legal counsel to represent him at the hague war crimes tribunal within days he's hearing this week was disrupted when that bitch was escorted out of the court . rupa shouting and interrupting the judge fusing to enter a plea instead the judge was forced to enter a dr will simply on his behalf says that it is accused of ordering the mass killing of thousands of bosnian muslims in the balkans war but only anniversary of the seven it's a massacre many serbs feel this side of the story isn't being taken into account that's right server reports. liquid little town of sibling meets in bosnia and herzegovina who looks it delic you houses are being built people go about their business and in the center of the town a mosque and a church sit side by side but this apparent unity is an illusion sixty years ago the entire region was torn apart by ethnic clashes during the yugoslav war and. became infamous when the united nations stated eight thousand muslim men and boys were massacred by bosnian serb forces today a memorial for

it these were masked men he really could have been any nationality we don't know whether they were serb albanian or french or even american we just still don't know that. a suicide attack on a government compound in southern afghanistan has left at least nineteen dead and over thirty five injured it follows a string of attacks and the killing of president karzai is half brother and it comes as the u.s. withdraws its forces former cia intelligence officer michael scherer told us that the violence in afghanistan will only escalate. we're watching a charade unfold here in afghanistan the afghan army the afghan national police force are never going to be able to control the country not just because they're have been trained sufficiently but also because they're divided tribal we when we are gone when nato leaves they'll go back to their tribes and they'll fight each other again and so the whole the whole house of cards will come down after the united states and its allies complete their their withdrawal withdraw in defeat really ultimately what we have after ten years of effort in afghanist

but cemeteries like these with entire families of murdered serb civilians only get visited by the very few remaining survivors but only comes here all the time his entire family lives here he says a bosnian muslim general is responsible so you know i was only nine years old when i said already stuck away everything i had in life of first he killed my mother then my father and brother i was wounded and taken captive they held me for fifty six days and only god knows how or why i survived. but even then but on a survive his loss just like that of thousands of people here is being ignored but i was at the hague tribunal and i was supposed to be a witness in his trial but in the end me and about thirty other witnesses were simply cast aside they didn't call us didn't ask what happened to our families and the tribunal only gave him two years in prison. the bulk of your so heinous atrocities visited an all sides and perpetrated by all players but the version most often propagated by western media is rather one sided in blaming the serbs the purpose of that is to set the stage and create a ra

the former bosnian serb general accused of ordering that should bring a massacre is likely to have a new legal team to represent him at the hague roskam luggage angrily disrupted his second hearing berating the judges for not allowing him to have his lawyers present but many serbs feel. a notorious journalist trial would not bring full justice. explains. the quiet little town of sibling meets in bosnia and herzegovina who looks it till it you houses are being built people go about their business and in the center of the town a mosque and a church sit side by side but this apparent unity is an illusion sixteen years ago the entire region was torn apart by ethnic clashes during the yugoslav war and seventy to became infamous when the united nations stated eight thousand muslim men and boys were massacred by bosnian serb forces today and the moral for the deceased sits in the grounds of a former un military base the sort of thing it's a memorial ground as well maintained and frequently visited by locals journalists and tourists who get boston and the bosnian capital of. the tourist aren

now that they're actually trying to choose reality on the ground while serbs in this part of saying the ethnic minority how legal that is the serbian import bound by kosovo or policies in terms of minorities rights. well we have to remember one thing cos it was still not universally recognized as a state so in fact serbs are not a minority down there they are part of the serbian people who are the majority in their own state now course they've always thought the session this republic so in other words the serbs tore down in kosovo still believe themselves to be part of serbia and they're acting in that capacity now the western states and mostly nato states that have recognized course of our treating them as a minority and the other had states that have not recognized kosovo independence and not treating serves as a minority but are seeing them as having equal rights as all other citizens of serbia now the security council session is on the way as you were saying but tulips on this will be claims said be wanted and a pretty nice engine is it was behind the un's decision do you think. the

in two thousand and eight when it unilaterally switched from serbia now some six hundred thousand serbs still live in the region but refused to recognize sovereignty kosovo's independence has been a bone of contention between serbia and the e.u. which is pressing belgrade to recognise kossovo before it can become a member for joining us now is both an expert an abortion logic lot it thank you very much for being out of programme well the attention is already boiling over in that area won't cos of all see that sending police to seize control of a checkpoint might just inflame the situation there. reduce the living situation. to send a special force. and if these the syrian government interest do nothing because. you. think you. can begin to force the issue and. basically use them so. this is all she can do it would be. sorry if it would both cross over and serbia need to resolve their issues so before either can try to move forward with their plans like for example for the recognition or membership do you think also of those movies is like taking two steps back. oh i'm trying to make a d

also always store secessionist republics so in other words the serbs were down across all still believe themselves to be part of serbia as fresh violence flares up in the disputed border between serbia and kosovo we took the balkans expert says the un closed session and continued. the u.s. military says it will continue airborne reconnaissance missions near china and that's despite beijing's protests last month after two chinese fighter jets in the set to begin to spy plane over taiwan which china claims as its territory can hello them from the american base of foreign policy in focus think tank says the rifts part of competition for energy moves in the region. right here on the united states is the number one user of energy in the world and trade is the number two and chinese oriel eighty percent of chinese energy supplies who moved by seen the move through the streets of rome once which is controlled by an american to sleep well in move straits which controls the american seventh fleet chinese are very sensitive to this and the need worry about the fact that the united states could so

the hague war crimes tribunals entered a plea of not guilty on behalf of former bosnian serb general recommend outage the accused was ordered out of the court for interrupting the judge and speaking out of turn the former general later complained of having had trouble hearing previously the judge refused to postpone the hearing at the request of another to threatened to boycott proceedings he's rejected the legal team given to him by the court demanding to choose his own defense lawyers and that it is accused of ordering the mass killing of thousands as opposed to muslims during the war bottom of this country as are the reports many serbs feel the international criminal court is only taking one side in a conflict like. liquid little town of sibling meets in bosnia and herzegovina who looks at daily you houses are being built people go about their business and in the center of the town a mosque and church sit side by side but this apparent unity is an illusion sixty years ago the entire region was torn apart by ethnic clashes during the yugoslav war and. became infamous when the unite

the former bosnian serb general come that it is lucky to get a new legal counsel to represent him at the hague war crimes tribunal within several days. his plea hearing this week was disrupted the way that it was a scolded out of the courtroom the shouting and interrupting the judge the courts have entered a not guilty plea on the tribunals the former good luck to you used to do say. that which is used to ordering a mass killing of thousands of bosnian muslims during the balkans war but on the anniversary of the servants a massacre many serbs feel this side of the story isn't being taken into account that it is over poles. liquid little town of sibling meets in bosnia and herzegovina looks at daily you houses are being built people go about their business and in the center of the town a mosque and a church sit side by side but this apparent unity is an illusion sixty years ago the entire region was torn apart by ethnic clashes during the yugoslav war and separate needs became infamous when the united nations stated eight thousand muslim men and boys were massacred by bosnian serb for

war crimes court hearing where he faces charges of genocide and serbs who lost their families during the bosnian war say justice is totally one sided. this is r.t. coming to live from moscow i'm marina joshie a chance for a breakthrough on a common missile defense system is up for grabs today for nato the alliance had anders fogh rasmussen is russia's city of sochi for talks and the missile shield is something that's guaranteed to be brought to the table the time has more from the spot. and it has been russia's concern for a very long time now russia doesn't want an arms race and if nato is to place its anti-missile defense shield in europe and then trying to sell defense shield that's going to be covering a big part of russian russia's territory then of course an arms race exactly what's going to happen according to present the great if we could see it starting by as soon as two thousand and twenty russia and the united states have signed strategic arms reduction treaty especially for the purpose of preventing an arms race and this seems to be an apple of discord at exactly going to

the former bosnian serb general rock of that it is likely to get a new legal counsel to represent him at the hague war crimes tribunals in days he's hearing this week was disrupted when he was ordered out of the courtroom shouting into a single charge and using to enter a plea instead charges. are back and added she is accused of ordering the mass killing of thousands of thousands them as you know more. than it's a massacre many serbs feel this side of the story isn't being taken into account at your service ports. the quiet little town of hebron meets in bosnia and herzegovina looks at village you houses are being built people go about their business and in the center of the town a mosque and a church sit side by side but this apparent unity is an illusion sixty years ago the entire region was torn apart by ethnic clashes during the yugoslav war and seventy became infamous when the united nations stated eight thousand muslim men and boys were massacred by bosnian serb forces today a memorial for the deceased sits on the grounds of a former un military base as the banks a memorial gro