go ahead meanwhile he did get old bloodied himself was a general of the officer of the serbian forces and he continued to be paid continue to receive logistics and he in fact continue to receive this pension even after he retired from serbia so there was more than adequate could command and control and in fact there is a trial now that is concluding general noam shalit parish which who was the serbian military a chief at the time for exactly the events around the serbian it's in the siege of sarajevo and other such grave violations of international military law where serbia was directly involved ok mishi go ahead reply to that ok ok first of all there are some tenuous connections here with mr booth with mr large mr was in fact a general within the jayme the yugoslav national army which when it broke up in a complex story of the civil war in bosnia actually became commander of the forces of the bosnian serbs into a conflict i have to say that although i know that people always want to involve belgrade. i am sorry allow me i am in michigan to your point my case i would not be interrupti

military a chief at the time for exactly the events surrounding serbian its in the siege of sarajevo and other such grave violations of international military law where serbia was directly involved ok mishi go ahead reply to that ok ok first of all there are some tenuous connections here with mr gould with mr love each misnomer was in fact a general within janeway of the yugoslav national army which when it broke up in the context of of a civil war in bosnia actually became commander off of the forces of the bosnian serbs into bosnian conflict i have to say that although i know that people always want to involve belgrade. ok sorry allow me i had my mission to your point i case i have not been for upping you all the time the international court of justice has stated that serbia has not been involved in the in the case of srebrenica there is another issue in the trial of mr me last year which the prosecution which also claimed that belgrade and hence mr milosevic were involved in the creation of greater serbia in boston or actually dropped officially the case of greater serbia they dro

serbian balkans expert marco gas which doesn't believe that you will play ball and granting membership even though the last war crimes suspect has been handed over. will get in return what it usually gets it has nothing whatsoever in the serbian has got many many more hoops to jump over before you can get anywhere close to you membership but i think that what the serbian leadership really wants is to have the appearance of traveling hopefully regardless of whether they ever arrive in the e.u. or not because it's that travelling hopefully which allows them to. some people say abandon many national interests with the excuse that in fact the e.u. needs it you want it it's not your leaders really just a cold as i think that is the argument of the current regime in belgrade and so this carrot of e.u. membership is something they wave in front of the population to ensure that the population remain which has worked so far libya's foreign minister says the departure of moammar gadhafi is not a subject for discussion he was speaking after meeting with his russian counterpart here in moscow but

to a regarding the serbian victims can i just say that there are a lot just a few g. group in europe and have been for some time i'm sorry so we've been running out of time here thank you gentlemen many thanks to my guest today in london and in new york and thanks to our viewers for watching us here on r.t. see you next time and remember rostock rules. the official allocation to your i pod touch from the. lights on the. video. and r.s.s. feeds now in the palm of your. on the dot com. in india. the move to join. the gateway who took the brunt imperial truly. you can. see don't need to go and. read this in the kennel was a photo retreat. continuing our breaking news coverage on r t a rescue effort that's now a recovery operation more than forty bodies retrieved pleasure cruiser day a day after it sank on the boulder river in central russia. president. orders to investigate was responsible for that said he and those people will be punished as he says suppose this ship was too old to be seen. with more than one hundred feared dead shock relatives struggle to accept how th

aggressor in this war i consider to belgrade and serbian not serve as a nationality but serbian as citizens or in this case as a regime i actually do not only knowledge of but i do have sorrow for all the victims of the war and i also should remind you that there were many serbs that is serves as a nationality who defend it sorry it only defended bosnia herzegovina probably one of the greatest heroes if not the greatest hero of the defense of bosnia-herzegovina is a serb ethnic galls me and it's a given in general you have on b.v.i. there were many others in the government now so i have no qualms about honoring the memory of all the victims but we have to distinguish between a fascist policy and one that engage in ethnic cleansing and genocide to create ethnically pure territories and all the talk about what the united states and the western european countries are doing in the region i may agree or disagree but that's not relevant as that issue of straw benita it is not relevant to the issue of what belgrade tried to do which is after yugoslavia fell apart and after bosnia-herzegovina reluc

too early regarding the serbian victims can i just say that there are a lot just a few jihad group in europe and have been for some time i'm sorry so we've run out of time here thank you gentlemen many thanks my guest today in london and in new york and thanks to our viewers for watching us here on r.t. see you next time and remember rostock rules. down the official cation your i pod touch from the i q saps to. life on the. video on demand. my old pal. says feed now in the palm of your. dot com.

one of the serbian people think about belgrade and visions on the tactics it's using so. was the government here has been looking very much to the west and see this again e.u. membership public opinion does that this is quite significantly in fact certainly over the last year or so we've seen a number of these arrests just two months ago came out it's mistaken in less than two months ago now of course with this new arrest they still don't really the hague and the e.u. has been putting pressure on serbia to jump through all these seats and they've met all these different demands and yet they haven't really had anything over simply created no help from president tadic staying safe their moral and legal obligations to the hague critics is that really to see that this is now going to pave a sneeze way to serbia to enter the again the membership i would be very naive and in fact there's going to be a number of bumps in the road along the way and not least is the public opinion there's been a lot of criticisms of the government's policies in fact i was actually here in november

the last serbian fugitive wanted by the u.n. war crimes tribunal has appeared in court how do you face is fourteen charges including crimes against humanity during the balkans war in the one nine hundred ninety s. so being officials hope that his arrest will clear the way to the e.u. membership but as our sara further reports many serbs remain skeptical as to whether it's at all worth joining us. so far they tried you know he's entitle hundred sixty one people and they say they have been searched and there's been a fair amount of criticism for certainly from the public opinion he he the head tribunals fighting with political and not necessarily legal interests there's also a strong public opinion here today the government very much looks to the west that people have really think phil anymore like joining the e.u. is necessarily going to be and that all the countries interest they only have to look to greece to italy to spain to see that joining the e.u. membership is not the answer to the country's problems but in many cases it

costs about is now banning serbian goods from its territory -- kosovo is now banning serbian goods from its territory. prime minister thaci said this should not affect ethnic serbs living in the area. with the ban in place, they have no access to serbian goods. the international community has spoken out, appealing for calm. the commander of nato peacekeeping in kosovo has said his force would not tolerate an escalation of the violence. during talks with cosimo's prime minister -- kuntsevo's tom prime minister -- kosovo's from minister thaci, he asked for peace. a raid by government troops near damascus. troops backed by tanks entered a town in syria and opened fire. the soldiers apparently believed the locals had supplied provisions to anti-government protesters. activists say the syrian army has also increased its presence in homs. video online also claims to show military reinforcements entering the city on tuesday. deutsche welle has learned that anian actors and film maker pegah ahangarani has been erased -- released on bail by authorities in tehran. she was about to come to germany

use this to paint a picture because the tribunals have been set up to to accuse all serbian leaders of being i didn't serve the big criminals while hiding the real criminals so the tribunals pointing finger is the one that the actual criminals who broke up the country hide behind. their brief look now at some of the international headlines at this hour the u.s. has announced it will send humanitarian aid to famine hits regions controlled by al qaeda in the sure liveries intercepted rain has declared a state of me to areas of southern somalia where nearly four million people are in danger of starvation monetary and agencies estimate the country needs more than the believe in the hard u.s. dollars in aid the current crisis has been caused by a devastating drought the worst in decades. and the space shuttle atlantis is waiting to touch the surface in about two hours off its last really craft and it's for the international space station due to land at the kennedy space center in florida down the end of the nasa shuttle program after that atlantis will become a museum piece with plans to tu

people that the serbian government has been bending over backwards to comply with the hague and they've really taken be quite buying in the way that they treat serbia the thing is the way they feel pointing in this direction they're really quite this illusion with president but it says policies now have remembered parliamentary elections coming up just next year the i did the problems they will be solved by membership d.v.d. now it's been a cold. the rest becomes less than two months through the form of. such explains why the international criminal tribunal for the former yugoslavia. war time. just a lose saying really in their propaganda operation if they didn't indict him then there would be one serbian leader who was accused of being a criminal and that would be inconvenient they had they have to accuse all the all the leadership of being criminals for this propaganda picture to take hold so why serbs generally. this to paint a picture because the tribunals have been set up to to accuse all serbian leaders of being i didn't serve them being criminals while hiding the real criminals s

use this to paint a picture because the tribunals have been set up to to accuse all serbian leaders of being i didn't the serbian criminals while hiding the real criminals so the tribunals pointing finger is the one that the actual criminals who broke up the country hide behind. us plenty more to discover on our website including the latest news blogs and expert analysis and much more here's what's online if you right now selection of. unscrupulous nuclear scientists down them technology from the internet presenting projects as their own attempt to pocket research money. and find out how to dozen passengers were stranded on a ship lessons taken to a scrapyard then. this acuity handover in afghanistan has begun with the first seven cities and regions being transferred from nato responsibility into the hands of local forces next set of areas expected to come on the cobbles control at the end of the year the process of transition is shadow to last year critical to them after that troops will remain stand support roles such as the training of local police the violence has recently spiked i

generally are of this to paint a picture because the tribunals have been set up to to accuse all serbian leaders of being i didn't the serbian criminals while hiding the real criminals so the tribunals pointing finger is the one that the actual criminals who broke up the country hide behind. or plenty more to find our website for you including the latest news blogs the next that and the license and here's what else is online for you right now at ask dot com on ruthless in nuclear science and down new technology through the internet presenting projects in an attempt to pocket research money. and find out how two dozen passengers with drownded on their ship and a vessel that was taking to the scrapyard with them still on board. the security handover in afghanistan began with the first seven cities and regions being transferred from nato responsibility into the hands of local forces well the next set of areas is expected to come under carpels controlled at the end of this year the process of transition is scheduled to last until camp fourteen after that foreign troops will only remain in af

know that this is an important player with no real guilt attached to him apart from being in the serbian leadership he's simply another another accused or there's been so many that they will not say it is very seriously all they understand this is another sacrifice in the strategy that they've been told will get them to the holy grail of the e.u. about whether they ever get there and in what condition they get on with what status they have in the e.u. these are all questions that really still to be answered so if i were them i would hold my breath. balkans expert things going on r.t. tonight. still to come up in the program as well the former left out in the cold. i was told you know too much the way they treat me now is that. they force me to run away and now they spit on my face i meet a former south lebanese soldier who blames israel for forgetting those who helped fight hezbollah over a decade ago we got his story coming up also. georges which for alleged spies gathers pace as the photographers charged with espionage for russia plead guilty but local journalists say those confessions

i decided to run, even if i might get shot. >> reporter: serbian soldiers fired at him as he run, but he managed to escape. but his father was caught by a militant and never returned to his family. hasanovic lives with his wife two children and mother in srebrenica. after the massacre, his life returned to normal, but he's now once again wounded by painful memories. it started in late may when he heard about a serbian armed group commander ratco mladic who masterminded the murders. >> translator: mladic is responsible for the massacre. when i see him, all the memories come back so vividly. >> reporter: hasanovic became unable to control his emotional ups and downs and started taking tranquilizers. >> translator: without medicine, he can't calm down. >> reporter: hasanovic doesn't want his children to experience his suffering. tvs and newspapers report on the massacre every day. he says he has to tell his children about his family's painful history. he took his daughter to a cemetery where the victims of the massacre are buried. his father is buried here, too. he talks to liz daughter

such a government drive to this membership and he said that they really see this as a chance the serbian people to have a normal life well the people here in serbia only have to look at what's happening right now in greece in spain in italy to see that quite clearly even membership is not going to be the answer to all our country's problems now add to that that they're also a very disillusioned with the government's policies and the way that they've handled this whole partnership and dealings with the e.u. they feel the serbia is being made to jump through hoops and it was there for filling all these the monster to put on them by the this thing which very little in return will get in return what it usually gets nothing whatsoever. so we have got many many more hoops to jump over before we can get anywhere close to. the e.u. has always linked. membership with the full cooperation with the hague and we've already heard from president had it that he feels that they have felt the moral and legal obligations to the hague so it's going to be very interesting now see with this latest arrest of

needed clearing up how did may be extradited to the hague on saturday sara first reports from the serbian capital belgrade. last week of an unsparing much to the west the public opinion actually does this quite significantly now the last time i was in belgrade at the end of last year i spoke to the deputy prime minister here and i asked him why there's still such a government drive this membership and he said that they really feel this as a chance the serbian people to have a normal life well the people here in serbia only have to look at what's happening right now in greece in spain in italy to see quite clearly e.u. membership is not going to be the answer to all our country's problems now add to that that they're also a very disillusioned with the government's policies and the way that they've handled this whole partnership and dealings with the e.u. they feel the serbia is being made to jump through hoops and it was there for filling all these demands that are put on and by the this being very little in return. what it usually gets would have nothing whatsoever. got many many more hoo

just lose saying really in their propaganda if they didn't indict him then there would be one serbian leader who was accused of being a criminal and that would be inconvenient they have to accuse all the serbs all their leadership of being criminals for this propaganda picture to take hold to why serbs generally are accused is to paint a picture because the tribunals have been set up too to accuse all serbian leaders all being i didn't serve the big criminals while hiding the real criminals so the tribunals pointing finger is the one that the actual criminals who broke up the country hide behind. well plenty more to find on our website including the latest news blogs and expert analysis is what's online a few right now at the quality dot com unscrupulous nuclear scientists download technology from the internet presenting projects as their attempt to pocket research money. and find out how to dozen passengers were stranded on a ship in the vessel was taken to a scrapyard with them still on board. the security handover it afghanistan has begun for the first seven cities in the region is

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serbian authorities have announced the arrest of one hundred the country's last remaining when war crimes speech to him is being sought for atrocities ranging from murder to religious persecution during the conflict immigration and. the early ninety's for the rest of that it sure until by the hague trodden with a similar crimes blocking service drive to overcome obstacles and it's great to join you on this let's cross live now to john laughlin very interesting the institute of democracy corp the line from paris there are joining us now for almost a decade a former serbian in the years i've enjoyed safe haven in serbia while we witnessing so many arrests now do you think. i have to say it's very difficult to know exactly why the same mystery really surrounds the arrest of. the former commander of the bosnian serb army which was you know. only a few weeks ago after he'd been on the run for a decade and a half it's not clear at all what events have led to these sudden arrests what is clear is as you said in your question that serbia the republic of serbia wants these men handed over in order

due process and i moreover think that the prosecutions that have been brought against serbian. indictees are quality of lead different and more aggressive than those that have been brought against other nationalities including against croats and i don't think that you do gain. in your you do you don't improve your image by effectively admitting as belgrade has done as the present government in belgrade has done that serbia's role in the breakup of yugoslavia was qualitatively worse than that of the other states it's not my view and i think we see this in the in the. what was happening when yugoslavia was breaking up was that militias were being formed in the ratio and then later among the serbs in croatia so first among the kurds and then among the serbs and there was fighting between these militias and the yugoslav army because the territory was still part of yugoslavia tried to interpose itself between the two there was a breakdown of law and order and the civil war and the hague tribunal has tried to turn this into a joint criminal enterprise planned to conquer parts of crea

bumbling glow that remain not least in the public opinion among the serbian people this thirteen government has been bending over backwards to comply with the hague they've really got a big buy in the way that they treat the thing is the way they feel pointing in this direction they're really quite this illusion with the president but it's his policies now remember parliamentary elections coming up just next year the i did the problems they will be solved by. the d.v.d. now it's been a cold paper. surface reporting that well the one hundred to rest comes less than two months after the capture of the former. such explains why the international criminal tribunal for me was soft. he was just a loose saying really in their propaganda operation if they didn't indict him then there would be one serbian leader who wasn't accused of being a criminal and that would be very inconvenient they had they had to accuse all the serbs all their leadership of being criminals for this propaganda picture to take hold to why serbs generally are just to paint a picture because the tribunals have been set up to t

serbia will get in return for years against nothing whatsoever i mean the serbian serbia has got many many more hoops to jump over before he can get anywhere close to members ship but i think that what the serbian leadership really wants is to have the appearance of traveling hopefully regardless of whether they ever arrive in the e.u. or not because it's that travelling hopefully which allows them to. some people say abandon many national interests with the excuse that in fact the e.u. needs it the e.u. wants it it's not us your leaders really were just obeying orders i think that is the argument of the current regime in belgrade and so this carrots of e.u. membership is something they wave in front of the population to ensure that the population remain those sile which has worked so far and you are with r t and still ahead for you this hour reward for support. i was told you know too much but the way they treat me now is a shame they forced me to run away and now they spit on my face around seven thousand ex members of the defunct south lebanese army say they've been abandoned by is

well serbian officials hope that his arrest will clear the way to e.u. membership this hour for reports many serbs remain skeptical as to whether it's worth joining at all. they tried deal has indicted one hundred sixty one people most of days have been serbs and there's been a fair amount of criticism for certainly from the public opinion here he'd hate tribunals starting with political and not necessarily legal interest there's also strong public opinion here it will do the government very much looks to the west that people have really didn't feel anymore like joining the e.u. is necessarily going to be in their school their country's interest they only have to look to greece to italy to spain to see that joining the e.u. membership is not the answer to the country's problems in fact in many cases it could quite potentially bring many more and yet is something that we still see the serbian government really pushing for now a lot of people saying that really. the holding to brussels wishes they were supported by brussels when this government was put in

here in a speech to the deputy prime minister and he said that he even membership is a chance the serbian people to have a normal life with people saying that completely disillusioned with that ideal as they seem quite recently you know the e.u. itself is going through a crisis they've got a number of problems they're dealing with with this latest arrest he will say he has done is called brussels bluff they said that this is one of the final last because it's again in the membership and talking about that kind of see we'll see whether the comes back and actually meets that with with any actions over how to address comes less than two months to counter the former bosnian serb commander general grant that it balkans expert monica gal sujit explains why the international criminal tribunal for the former yugoslavia is so focused on serbian . just a lose saying really in their propaganda operation if they didn't indict him then there would be one serbian leader who wasn't accused of being a criminal and that would be inconvenient they had they have to accuse all the serbs all their leadership

serbian authorities have announced the arrest of the country's last remaining un crimes a fugitive when he was being sought for transfer scenes ranging from murder to religious a prosecution jury in the conflict between croatia and yugoslavia and the nineteenth it follows the arrest of a lot it's wanted by the hague tribunals for similar crimes marking serbia's drive to overcome obstacles in the way of its bid to join the e.u. wolf for more on this that's cause live ballot alexander puppets of the list based in belgrade this coverage many times of being with us here now why do you think that belgrade has waited until now to arrest both had it i'm glad it. well i think the serbian authorities claimed that they couldn't find them before of course the opposition here questions that this is all part of a. election campaign because parliamentary elections are due here early next year and many here in the opposition think that this is all in the function of getting some points from the you because. the current government is desperate to get candid this see and the beginning of negotiations fo

hoops to jump over before you can get anywhere close to membership but i think that what the serbian leadership really wants is to have the appearance of traveling hopefully regardless of whether they ever arrive in the e.u. or not because it's that travelling hopefully which allows them to some people say abandon many national interests with the excuse that in fact the e.u. needs the e.u. wants it's not us your leaders really we're just obeying orders i think that's the argument of the current regime in belgrade and so this carrots of e.u. membership is something they wave in front of the population so ensure that the population remain those sile which has worked so far one of the seven people who was very briefly marco what what will they make of this arrest tonight i think they know that this is an important player with no real guilt attached to him apart from being in the leadership he is simply another another accused or there's been so many that they will not take this very seriously at all they understand this is another sacrifice in the strategy that they've been told will ge

well i think the serbian authorities claimed the couldn't find them before of course the opposition here claims that this is all part of a. election campaign because parliamentary elections are due here early next year and many here in the opposition think that this is all in the function of getting some points from you because the current government is desperate to get candidacy and the beginning of negotiations for expression saw some are interpreted as putting the timing close to the election so this can be exploited both internally and externally it's ok well short of the focus now to the hague why do you think that the international criminal tribunal bear is also stay focused on so be in war time leaders right now. i'm sorry can you. trouble hearing. i was also why do you think that the international criminal tribunals in the hague is also so focused on serbian timely it is well you know this is the story of the hague from the start the hague tribunal from the start has actually been designed to criminalize all serbian activity from the ninety's from the civil wars in yugoslavia bec

goran hadzic let serbian forces during the war in croatia in the 1990's. he has been charged with 14 counts of war crimes and crimes against humanity. the european union has insisted that serbia and arrest all wanted war crimes suspects before the country is granted candidate status for membership. >> goran hadzic's appearance is the end of the 18 year hunt for those involved in war crimes in the balkan conflict. he is the last of 161 suspect to go on trial. >> it sends a strong signal to the world that international criminal justice is achievable. his arrest confirms the extraordinary success story that is the icty. the era of impunity is over. >> goran hadzic declined to enter a plea before the tribunal. the former warehouse worker became leader of the self- proclaimed republic of serbia krajina during the 1990's. he faces charges of murdering hundreds of croats and expelling tens of thousands more. this includes the killing 267 hospital patients in vukovar. he went into hiding to avoid being prosecuted. u.n. investigators found him, proving he was being