their names are larry page and sergei brennan. they started a little company called google. we need to look into the future on all of these things, agriculture, energy. one other thing we have to do in government, this notion that government cannot work is baloney. just treat it like a business. fix it. i read the other day -- and you know this to be true -- how dare a city keep uber out in order to protect the taxi industry. that's just wrong. are you going to stand in the way of progress? so free uber. [laughter] bill: you briefly touched on the issue of people who have committed felonies having trouble finding work. this is a country that incarcerates about as many people as any place in the world, should there be changes in the nation's criminal justice system? mr. kasich: let me tell you a bunch of things about that. we have performed our criminal justice system, and i was meeting with attorney generals and other states saying that the system of blocking people up when it is not even appropriate -- locking people up when it is not even appropriate does not make any sens