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secretary of state marco rubio and his russian counterpart sergei lavrov.ides must make concessions. all this come amid a failurey of diplomacy, sparked by a change in approach from the new president trump. but this is the kicker. neither ukraine nor europe had a seat at the table today so while he was shut out of the talks in riyadh. ukraine's president, zelensky was in angara meeting his kurdish counterpart. they criticized the talks in saw rain as talks about ukraine without ukraine and he said negotiations should not take place behind our backs. we hear from our correspondents in riyadh, moscow and in kyiv but let's start with an overview from our diplomatic correspondent. >> a moment of history, americans on the left, russians on the right. senior officials face to face for the first time in years. both sides silent and grim faced for the media but russia back at the top table without making a single concession and clearly glad to come in from the cold. america's top diplomat marco rube yo said they agreed to improve dim lomatic relations and appoint n

we reporter olga ivshina. have had confirmation, that is we have had confirmation, that is sergei lavrov and a of é- ' if is ”5 ff" ww "7 but we have to have the right number of people with the right equipment and the right training, and start to fund that now. i was speaking to sources in the ministry of defence last night, they gave no indication that going beyond that 2.5% figure was an immediate possibility. they said the priority was on setting a date that the uk would hit that target. so no immediate signs that that could happen anytime soon. i think that will be a question that sir keir starmer will face when he makes his trip to washington to visit donald trump for the first time next week. harry farley at westminster, thank you. we can go to kyiv and our ukraine correspondent until there is a clear plan, a clear path to how a peace agreement could be agreed and implemented. so it's not clear what will come out of these initial talks. the american side is saying this is just about seeing how serious moscow is and opening a channel of communication. but the tone over the past week

, was the fact that this was not the sergei lavrov that we had come to know over the course of many years. this was a russian foreign minister who was uncharacteristically looking at his notes, reading from his notes the whole time appeared very nervous. and ultimately, i think we concluded that he either didn't know what was about to happen. he, too, was in the dark, kept in the dark by president putin, or he was deeply uncomfortable with what was going to happen. and that was really showcased in his body language. and so i say that knowing that they're going to meet the russian foreign minister tomorrow, there is one person who started this war, it was president putin. there is one person who can end this war. it is president putin meeting with other officials may help eventually to get there. it may help to scope out what the russians are going to demand where they are. but ultimately, there aren't going to be concrete results from a meeting with anyone but vladimir putin. >> all right. so let's talk about the fact that ukraine is not at the table for this very beginning of

the us secretary of state spoke to his russian counterpart sergei lavrov on saturday re—affirming presidentrump's commitment to finding an end to the conflict. the trump administration is suggesting the upcoming talks could involve some russian territorial concessions, but it also seemed to rule out ukrainejoining nato. it also looks like europe may no longer be invited to the table, according to the us special envoy for ukraine and russia. speaking at the munich security conference on saturday, keith kellogg said previous peace efforts had failed because too many parties were involved — suggesting that only the us, russia and ukraine should be part of negotiations. take a listen. my definition of "at the table," when you're actually sitting down there. you don't — to me, it doesn't mean their interests are not taken part of, they are not considered, they are not used, they are not developed. that means at the table — you have an ability to have input. but when you have those three — well, really, two — engaged partners with — you have russia and you have ukraine fighting right now — and pr

sergey lavrov. ukraine was not in the meeting. late today, president trump saying of ukraine, you should have never started it, you could have made a deal. even though the world witnessed russia invade ukraine. here's our chief foreign correspondent ian pannell from inside ukraine tonight. >> reporter: tonight, in a radical break with the past, the u.s. and russia agreeing to work together. for the first time, in almost three years. the two sides discussing how to end russia's war in ukraine, but doing so without any ukrainian officials present. >> we couldn't have imagined a better result after this session. >> today is the first step of a long and difficult journey, but an important one. >> reporter: president trump just moments ago claiming he has the power to end this war, and falsely blaming ukraine for russia's invasion. >> and i think i have the power to end this war. and i think it's going very well. but today, i heard, oh, well, we weren't invited. well, you've been there for three years. you should have ended it three ye

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but, you know, sergei lavrov, you've sat at tables just like this one with the russians. so what do you hope these american officials kept in mind? and how serious do you think that putin is, is actually considering this peace deal, potential peace deal. >> so i have negotiated with sergey lavrov and yuri ushakov sitting right next to him for many years. i would say two things. one, they're not going to give anything in the beginning, and they're going to stake out maximalist positions. and the american strategy should therefore not be to respond to those. number two, to the best of my knowledge, i've seen absolutely no evidence that putin is prepared to provide any concessions, and instead he just waits for us to keep adding concessions. right. so no membership to nato for ukraine. give territory. there are now reports saying that we're going to lift sanctions. we are negotiating with ourselves while they just sit on the other side and wait for us to give more. and so i think they have to change their thinking about this, and they have to begin to say what russia needs t

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number one, vladimir putin and sergey lavrov are war criminals. they are liars. and they are the ones that started this war. and they are never to be trusted. like we've known putin for a long time. he's been on the scene for decades. we know that he lies. we know that he's aggressive. we know that he can never be trusted. and he breaks promises over and over and over again. so donald trump thinks that he can placate them, that he can try to make some deal that actually isn't backed by security guarantees and power. he is lying to himself. >> based on the statements that we've heard from lavrov, from putin, from president trump. if i just played those two in a vacuum, whose side would you say that president trump is on? >> well, i mean, clearly, you have to think that donald trump is moving towards the russians, right? there's a long history, actually, of donald trump saying things to to appease vladimir putin, echoing russian propaganda. he is surrounded by people in his administration that echo russian propaganda. you have tucker carlson, whose people are in ev

marco rubio and sergei lavrov promised to have high level teams. this is that is acceptable to all sides. the sanction also stay in place until a peace deal is reached. >> we're going to appoint a high level team to walk through the end of the conflict in ukraine in a way that is enduring and acceptable to all of the parties engaged. the third point is to begin the work at a high level as well. to begin to discuss and think about and examine the geo-political and economic cooperation that could result from an end to the conflict in ukraine. tom: joining us for more is bloomberg's greg sullivan. greg, did the talks make any progress? what was the outcome of this meeting between rubio and sergei lavrov? >> well, they were short on details at the end of the meeting but russian leaders quick to hail the talks as a success. the u.s. also seemed to signal that progress was made. of course we heard from president trump he still expects to meet putin possibly as soon as before the end of the month. what we're likely to see next would be progress toward any

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where you will they include the secretary of state, marco rubio, meeting his russian counterpart, sergei lavrov peskov, describing a future meeting between donald trump and vladimir putin as being special, significant, so you can see both sides warming up. but of course, i'm leaving out a third side here, ukraine, where president zelensky last night said that he wasn't aware of this meeting and therefore wouldn't be going. he is in the region for a visit, but at the moment we don't know, you know, on what level each side is going to be going to be represented and what is going to be discussed. so we wait to see what concrete details will come out, but it makes it no less consequential for ukraine, for europe and the broader region. and what about europe's role here? i mean, we heard from president zelensky saying that ukraine obviously had to be at the table for any negotiations, but also insisting that europe did. european leaders planning on holding a separate meeting in the coming days, possibly as early as tomorrow. but but what can they do to insert themselves into the negotiations? i mean

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critical tone about europe from his administration has also been echoed by russia's foreign minister, sergey lavrov. if the europeans are going to weasel out ideas about freezing the conflict, he said, why should we invite them at all? secretary of state marco rubio has already arrived in saudi arabia, where the first round of talks will be held with the russian delegation starting on tuesday. is america, now, an unreliable ally? >> i think the possibility of that is out there, floating, in the ether. it will be a terrible thing if it happened because the main effect of it, of course, would be to reduce the deterrent effect of nato, which has kept peace in europe, indeed in the world, for a very long time. >> reporter: most european nations agree, they need to raise their defense spending if they have hope of deterring this newly emboldened russia. >>> in the middle east, israel says hamas is expected to release the bodies of four hostages on thursday, followed by three living hostages saturday. this comes as israelis gathered in tel aviv last night to mark 500 days since the october 7th attack. on

and sitting across the table from them, sergey lavrov, the russian foreign minister, and yuri ushakover to president putin. now, what was notablejust as much for who was there was, of course, who was not. the ukrainians have not been invited. that was a question that i shouted to mr rubio while we were still in the room. is the us sidelining ukraine, mr secretary? what concessions will there be asked of russia, mr secretary? now he didn't answer those. it was clear at that point i think the meeting was going to last some hours and take up the best part of the day before both sides were going to give their own accounts, their own narratives of the way the meeting had gone. tom bateman in riyadh there. in a moment we'll speak to our our russia editor steve rosenberg, but first let's go to ukraine correspondentjames waterhouse in kyiv. james, in moscow, president vioscow, bleaseé president vioscn be bleaseé president vioscn be and bleaseé of this russia.?-.-, ,. * saudi yet men victory have glee; eff—222777 have gai sta -e. fizz: :——7——— have gai sta-e. e to é?:——f—r— talks the tali is:he

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russia's current foreign minister, sergey lavrov, was's deputy at the time. for joining us on bbc news today. i want to begin by asking you if you think that america understands what russia's strategic objectives are at this time, not just towards ukraine. you think america understands what those objectives are? in your view, what is vladimir pugin want to do at this point --what does vladimir putin want to do at this point? >> i think the idea that putin wants peace, that is completely wrong, or that putin wants to stop even war. putin benefits from the war because it allows him to strengthen his dictatorship and intimidation in russia itself and deserves -- serves's long-term interest in humiliating, in discriminating, and undermining as much as possible the nato countries, european countries, in america. so it's clear, absolutely clear that zelenskyy is great war president, and by the ukrainian constitution, he just cannot have elections right now. and he won election. but mr. trump is elected president fairly and clearly, elected president of the united s

i have to say that the messaging coming from the russians, from sergei lavrov and his was very differentey are framing this as effectively a start remember the context of this, coming after and all of this coming with those waves of concern in europe about being left on the sidelines. we are seeing european countries scrambling to try at the kinds of things that american officials have been so everyone here knows how high the stakes are, ukrainians are not invited. president zelensky saying that he didn't know about these the french president, emmanuel macron, says he's had stressed the need to take responsibility for their own continent's security, as the us attempts to talk the polish prime minister, donald tusk, said they had entered a new stage in transatlantic relations, and europe needed to immediately boost its defences. his comments were supported by the danish prime minister, well, this meeting in paris was hastily arranged as a response to some of the messaging that we've been hearing from the us government. and of course, it's a response to the fact their talks about how to en

russia's foreign minister, sergei lavrov, confirmed that russia and the united states agreed to establishor settling the ukraine conflict — but took aim at previous us administrations, blaming president biden and nato expansion for causing the conflict. we explained today that, and we noted that president trump in several speeches was the first of western leaders to say that dragging ukraine into nato was one of the main, what is happening, this is one ofjoe biden�*s biggest mistakes of his administration and with trump as president, that would never happen. president putin has stressed more than once that nato's expansion and ukraine by the north atlantic was a direct threat to the russian federation and to our sovereignty. earlier, i spoke to sergei markov, advisor to president putin. i asked him whether russia refusing to allow nato boots on the ground to maintain peace difficult for the prospects of a future deal. i think russian position is because it is based on the simple fact that a lot of money has been put into the war and doing so would undermine the peace and security grant is

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when he asked why his secretary of state marco rubio was meeting with his russian counterpart, sergey lavrovdi arabia, without ukrainians at the table even as they discussed ending russia's invasion of ukraine. and he said well, ukraine never should have started this war in the first place which is of course patently false. ukraine was invaded by russia. it was one of several eye-opening untrue things he said. at one point, he argued that the ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy wasn't really in a position to be making demands because his approval rating is at 4%. that's not true. his approval rating is very similar to president trump's in this country. it's at about 50%. these kinds of comments add to concerns that have been expressed by the ukrainians and by u.s. allies in europe who say that president trump appears to be putting his thumb on the scale for russia before these talks about ending the war even officially get underway. >> john: we'll see if his officials repeat those comments about blaming zelenskyy. let me ask about doge, this judge's ruling. it's allowed to have access to

if there is an agreement, something that russian foreign minister sergey lavrov said would be unacceptable, uh, specifically if they were troops from nato countries present in ukraine. is there any alternative? there? >> the alternative is to disregard what lavrov says. the russians don't get a vote and don't get a vote in whether or not the west europeans or the americans or nato provides a security guarantee to the ukrainians. they don't get a vote. they do get a vote on the cease fire, there's no doubt about that. but they don't get a vote on the security guarantee. they don't get a vote on whether ukraine joins nato. by the way, that's not an issue for these conversations. that's a separate conversation between the europeans and the ukrainians, with support from the from the americans. that's a that's a separate conversation. the russians don't are not part of that conversation. >> ambassador william taylor, appreciate you coming on and sharing your perspective. >> thank you boris. >> still to come, despite being front and center of doge, the white house says that elon musk is not the

is keen to determine the kremlin's intent, while russian foreign minister sergey lavrov says the meeting aims to end what he called an abnormal period between two, quote, great powers. but key players are not even at the table, including nato and ukraine's leader. instead, president volodymyr zelenskyy meets with the turkish president in the coming hours. cnn's matthew chance spoke with one of the russian diplomats in riyadh earlier, who says he already met with members of trump's team ahead of these talks. >> what has that team promised you here? have you have they given you an indication about what they're going to give you? >> no, i. >> think it's the promise is let's. >> have dialog. let's figure. >> out the best solution for our countries, for other countries, for the global community. >> let's go now to cnn's fred pleitgen, live in moscow. fred, u.s. and russian delegations have now been in discussions for more than 2.5 hours. what do you believe that russia is willing to concede in those talks? >> you're absolutely right, kayla. it's 2.5 hours. they took a short break and apparent

we were at a press conference earlier today with the russian foreign minister, sergey lavrov. and of course, we have heard from several officials from the trump administration that they believe that as these talks go on, to try and find some sort of ceasefire or peace agreement and to end the conflict between russia and ukraine that the trump administration believes that both sides will have to make painful compromises. so i asked sergey lavrov what compromises russia is willing to make, especially as far as the territory that it currently holds in ukraine. here's what he has to say. which territorial concessions and in general, which compromises is russia willing to make to achieve such a peace agreement? >> you want us to have a mere thought of the negotiations on the settlement, regarding the fact that some territories still need to be ceded, to cede how? with people with russians or without people with only rare earth metals? if we are still talking about serious diplomacy, it's better to first understand the history of the issue and see why the russian language is banned

. >> and and fred, you heard directly from russian foreign minister sergey lavrov today. yeah, i certainly did. and i think one of the things that we also have to point out, jake, is that the. >> russians really. >> do. >> feel that they have a. >> lot of momentum now going. on after this phone call between president trump and the russian president, vladimir putin. >> in fact, the kremlin today said. >> they were. really impressed. by president trump's position on all of this. their near-term goal, by the way, is to get a summit going in a third country. between putin and president trump. the russians are saying that is already in the works. and so i asked the foreign minister today, sergey lavrov. >> whether he. >> believes that relations between the u.s. and russia will get on track very quickly. he then launched into a tirade against the biden administration, but also against america's european allies. here's what he said. >> yesterday after the. >> phone call between. >> president trump. >> and and russian. president vladimir putin. >> are you more. >> hopeful now tha

so what we're going to see tomorrow is sergey lavrov, the foreign minister of russia, uh, alongside the former, uh, u.s. ambassador, a russian ambassador to the u.s. and then on the american side of the table, you've got secretary rubio of the national security advisor, mike waltz and steve witkoff, who's been doing a lot more work with the russian side. now, the u.s. is under no illusions that they're going to come to any kind of agreement anytime soon. this is the start of a process, they say, but this is the start of a process that, as you noted, is not including the ukrainians. and we did hear some frustration from ukrainian president zelenskyy earlier today. take a listen. >> ibrahim aqil. >> ukraine will not participate. ukraine knew nothing about them. ukraine perceives any negotiations about ukraine without ukraine as those with no results. we cannot recognize anything or any agreements about us without. >> us. >> so that does. brianna, that does speak to a lot of the concerns among the ukrainians and the europeans that the u.s. is essentially pushing ahead. just speaking with r

russia's foreign minister, sergei lavrov, who, as you know, jose, is a man who's been in the role forankly. >> you can describe him as deeply cynical. he today described. >> this as. >> a very useful conversation and said, quote, i have reason to believe that the americans better understand our position. now, that suggests that russians are pretty pleased with what happened today. secretary of state. marco rubio saying breaking it down, saying that the agreement has been for high level delegations to talk about peace in ukraine, to reinstall diplomatic relations and to talk. and this is interesting too, to talk, jose, about potential cooperation between america and russia, on geopolitics and on economics. now, remember that sergey lavrov. >> and a number of the other russian. >> officials in these talks today are themselves sanctioned by the us, by europe, in fact, all of them are internationally sanctioned. >> in one. >> way or another. so for this meeting to finish with this suggestion, in the future, there could be economic cooperation. that is a tectonic shift in relations between

i'm looking at a schedule for planning, and that wasn't on it, that he would be speaking with sergey lavrov. but i will say we were showing some video. he had just arrived after traveling from munich to jerusalem, then jerusalem to tel aviv. that's what you all were seeing. it was dark. you may not have been able to tell, but anyway, courtney kube, you're the best. we'll see you again soon. thank you so much. not that i recall why that answer from fbi nominee kash patel has senator adam schiff outraged and demanding answers? want to get the most out of one sheet? outraged and demanding answers? we're back in 90s. grab bounty. (♪♪) bounty is made to be stronger... ...and more absorbent. so, while ordinary brands can't hold up, one sheet of bounty keeps working, even when wet. (♪♪) now that's the sound of value. bounty. the quicker picker upper. where ya headed? susan: where am i headed? am i just gonna take what the markets gives me? no. i can do some research. ya know, that's backed by j.p. morgan's leading strategists like us. when you want to invest with more confidence... the answer is j

the us and the russian flags placed behind them and on the tables were the russian delegation, sergey lavrov, the foreign minister, and yuri ushakov, one of the key aides to vladimir putin in the kremlin sitting, you know, just a metre and a half across the table from the us delegation, i asked the question of mr rubio when i was in the room, what concessions were being asked of russia? and also, were they sidelining the ukrainians? he didn't answer that. now, we expect that the meeting itself might last several hours. in fact, possibly the best part of the day here in riyadh. and, you know, as you've been hearing, we have heard from the russians that they see this or at least framing this as the sort of restart of normalised relations with the united states. as for the americans, they're trying to play down expectations that this is any sort of formal start of negotiations. i think a more realistic outcome will be their attempts to try to secure and even potentially fix a date for a summit between president trump and putin. and, tom, you're travelling with the us delegation. do we have any

. >> you did speak in a phone call with russia's top diplomat, sergey lavrov.ussian side claimed that you discussed restoring trade, which seemed to be a nod to easing restrictions on diplomats and other gestures like a high-level leaders meeting. are you actually considering -- is the trump administration considering lifting sanctions on russia? >> well, the phone call was to establish communications that are consistent with the call the president made last week with vladamir putin, because if there is going to be the possibility of progress here towards peace, we are going to need to talk to the russians. that is going to have to happen, and we have to do it across our channels. we didn't go into any details. what we discussed is basically the ability to begin communicating. i've never spoken to mr. lavrov in my life, so it was an opportunity to open that channel of communication. which, again, if there's the potential of peace, that's a channel that has to exist. i also raised the issue of our embassy in moscow, which operates under very difficult conditions

. >> war, while russian foreign minister sergey lavrov said moscow would not accept the presence of peacekeeping troops. from nato countries in ukraine. russian state media has cited the kremlin saying a meeting between putin and trump may happen this month, a timeline trump described as probable. yesterday, president trump was critical of ukraine's president zelensky in a mar a lago press conference, saying it has been a long time since elections were held in the country and appearing to accuse ukraine's leadership of being responsible for the war beginning. >> i have. >> the power to. >> end this war and i think it's going very well. but today i heard, oh, well, we weren't invited. well, you've been there for three years. you should have ended it three years. you should have never started it. you could have made a deal. i could have made a deal for ukraine. that would have given them almost all of the land, everything, almost all of the land. and no people would have been killed and no city would have been demolished, and not. >> one dome. >> would have been knocked down. but they chose not to

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russian foreign minister sergey lavrov already taking a victory lap, saying the u.s. is finally starting to listen to moscow. but this thaw in relations is sending a shiver down the spine of europe and above all, ukraine. neither invited to this meeting. now european leaders are set to gather in paris for a second day of an emergency summit. the french prime minister saying today, we're witnessing an unthinkable alliance between putin and trump that's marginalizing europe on its own soil. david, president trump's claim that ukraine is to blame for the war is just totally false. it was russia that invaded ukraine, and even tonight, ukrainian cities are yet again being bombed by russia. david? >> david: ian pannell reporting from inside ukraine tonight. ian, thank you. >>> there is also news tonight from the vatican. late word coming in on pope francis' health. james longman is at the vatican. james, what have you learned? >> reporter: david, a concerning development here tonight. pope francis is now fighting pneumonia. the 88-year-old had a ct scan that showed he has a

critical tone about europe from his administration has also been echoed by russia's foreign minister sergey lavrovgoing to weasel out some cunning ideas about freezing the conflict," he said, "then why should we invite them at all?" secretary of state marco rubio has already arrived in saudi arabia where the first round of talks will be held with the russian delegation starting on tuesday. is america now an unreliable ally? >> i think the possibility of that is out there floating in the ether. and it will be a terrible thing if it happened, because the main effect of it, of course, would be to reduce the deterrent effect of nato, which has kept peace in europe, and indeed, in the world for a very long time. >> reporter: but it has to be said that europe has already overtaken the u.s. in military and humanitarian financial assistance to ukraine since the start of the war by many billions of dollars. still, it's ukrainians who continue to pay the ultimate price with tens of thousands already killed in the fighting. imtiaz tyab, cbs news, london. >>> straight ahead on "cbs news roundup," formers say

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steve witkoff who helped broker the hamas-israel ceasefire meeting with russia's foreign minister, sergey lavrov. the goal? reestablish normal diplomatic channels with putin's government in order to end the nearly 3-year-old conflict. where does ukraine fit in? peter doocy joins us live from the white house with the latest. >> reporter: yes. and, volodymyr zelenskyy was supposed to visit saudi arabia for meetings of his own today, but he backed out at the last minute and says he is going to be there next month instead. and his official public posture on these direct u.s. and russia talks basically boils down to him saying that ukraine feels left out. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: this russian-american meeting in saudi arabia was a surprise for us. just like to many others. yes, we saw all this information from the media. i don't know who will today there, who will leave, who is going where. to be honest, i don't care. if what i care about a is for the partners to overthink manager about us. something about us. >> reporter: the u.s. and russia that agreed today, according to secretar

the russian foreign minister, sergey lavrov, due to lead the russian delegation.ot taking part in these initial talks. it is just being held between president trump's senior foreign policy team and the russian side. there will be separate negotiations held later between the ukrainians and another of president trump's envoys coming to ukraine later this week. after that, , there are suppose to be joint discussions. so, it is still relatively early in this process. ukraine hasn't been cut out completely, but ukraine is worried that that could happen as it watched that call between president putin and president trump and sees these talks starting in earnest in saudi arabia as it watches from the sidelines. >> thank you. >>> a woman has now dropped her sexual assault lawsuit against music mogul and rap superstar sean carter, better known as jay z. it comes after nbc spoke to the accuser and her father and discovered inconsistencies in that account. here's nbc news entertainment correspondent. >> reporter: jay z able to declare victory after the case was dismissed with

russians also after a phone call between secretary of state marco rubio and russian foreign minister sergey lavrov on saturday, in a readout, seemed to indicate that all of this could be a larger reset between these two nations. they said that the secretary of state and the russian foreign minister spoke not only about a possible agreement to end the war in ukraine, but possible that there could also be talks about, for instance, sanctions relief and economic cooperation between the united states and russia in the future. so clearly, there's a lot of dynamic right now here in moscow, and certainly a lot of optimism that russia could be in a very good place with the united states fairly soon. fred pleitgen, cnn, moscow. >> fred pleitgen, thank you for that report. joining me now to discuss this cnn contributor and former cnn moscow bureau chief, jill dougherty. thank you for being here. i want to ask, what do you see as the most important issue for the u.s. to raise during these talks with russia in saudi arabia on tuesday? >> well, ultimately, i think the most important thing overall is long term

it was quite interesting because yesterday the russian foreign minister, sergey lavrov, spoke with secretary of state marco rubio and the readout that the russians put out afterwards didn't only speak about finding an end to the war in ukraine, but also about possible sanctions relief, economic development, economic cooperation between the united states and russia in the future, as well as improving diplomatic ties between the two nations. so the russians clearly believe that right now with the trump administration in office, they have an administration that is favorable to russia's views, not just as far as ukraine is concerned, and certainly one that could really change the dynamic in the relations of these two countries, fredricka. >> all right. fred pleitgen, thanks so much. all right. earlier today, secretary of state marco rubio gave joint statements in jerusalem with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. the two saying they are united in confronting one main threat. >> the common theme in all of these challenges is iran. it is the single greatest source of instability in the regi

. >> secretary rubio and russian foreign minister sergey lavrov have already talked about each other'sts working together in the future. in london, alex hogan, fox news. >> well, hundreds of people gathered in moscow to mark one year since the death of russian opposition leader alexei navalny. navalny's mother was among the mourners. he died in an arctic penal colony while serving a prison sentence. officials say he died from natural causes, but his allies and family say they believe he was killed on orders from the kremlin. thousands risked being arrested last year to attend navalny's funeral. >> in the middle east. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu appears to be moving forward with president trump's plan to order the palestinian population out of gaza. netanyahu met with u.s. secretary of state marco rubio in jerusalem. he called the removal of palestinians from gaza, quote, the only viable plan to enable a different future for the region. the plan also calls for the u.s. to take control of gaza. >> we have a common strategy, and we can't always share the details of this stra

foreign ministry confirming that secretary of state marco rubio and the russian foreign minister, sergey lavrov, have spoken. now, the readout from the state department is pretty short and pretty crisp. it says that marco rubio reiterated president trump's desire to end the conflict in ukraine and that other issues and possible areas of cooperation were also discussed in the international sphere. the russian readout goes a lot further than that and has actually a lot more detail than that. and it seems to indicate that the russians believe that nearly a full reset of relations could be on the table. the russians, of course, are not only looking to end the war in ukraine on terms favorable for themselves, but they also want sanctions relief. so part of the russian readout reads, quote, the heads of the foreign ministries agreed to maintain a communication channel to address the accumulated issues in russian american relations, with the aim of removing one sided barriers inherited from the previous administration that hinder mutual beneficial trade, economic and investment cooperation. so the rus

important one secretary of state, marco rubio leading the negotiations with russian foreign minister sergey lavrov who remains under u.s. sanctions for his role in the war. i came away today convinced that they are willing to begin to engage in a serious process to determine. >> how and how quickly and what mechanism be brought to this war. u.s. officials say the talks yielded 4 takeaways, including efforts to renew allies, diplomatic relations between the u.s. and russia. >> appointing high-level teams to help end the war lay groundwork towards future cooperation and economic investment and a pledge to keep the peace process going. i don't think we believe any just peace can be reached without the participation and leadership of ukraine. some lawmakers raised concern earlier this week after ukraine was shut out of today's talks and no european leaders were there either. i quote that the facts will continue to push back on this notion. >> that our allies haven't been consulted their being they are being consulted literally almost on a daily basis based on what officials laid out. >> there appears

a couple of minutes ago about this phone call that took place between russian foreign minister sergey lavrov and secretary of state rubio. we do now also have readouts from both the state department and also the russian foreign ministry as well. the u.s. state department readout is pretty short. it just confirms that this call took place, that it was a follow up to that call between vladimir putin and and president trump that happened a couple of days ago, and that the two discussed ways to end the war in ukraine. and then also, as the u.s. puts it, further bilateral issues to be resolved. now, from the russian side, the readout is very much different from the russian side. this sounds like the two spoke not only about a possible resolution to the war in ukraine, the conflict in ukraine, but also essentially a reset in relations between the u.s. and russia. i want to read to you some of what the russian foreign ministry put in here. they say the head of the foreign ministry's agreed to maintain a communication channel to address the accumulated issues in russian american relations, with the