. >>> did you meet with a ukrainian official named sergei shaffer? >> yes, i did. >> a very senior aide to president zelensky? >> correct. >> it has been reported as far as we understand from public reporting that you conveyed to mr. shaffer the exact quid pro quo, that you wanted zelensky to announce investigations into joe biden or military aid would not be released to ukraine. is that accurate? >> there's a little bit more to that. basically the message that i was supposed -- that i gave sergei shaffer was a very harsh message that was told to me to give it to him in a very harsh way, not in a pleasant way. >> who told you to give it to him in a harsh way? >> mayor giuliani, rudy told me after meeting at the president, the white house, he told me he called him in there and he doesn't want him flying out. all of ukraine was already buzzing by the time we woke up that rudy giuliani came on tv and said that zelensky is surrounded by enemies of the president. i became very concerned and didn't know what to do because they understand that relationships

shaffer, good evening sergei, is there any news? >> sergei did not write back. a couple of weeks later, parnas tried again. hello? question mark? hello. are you blocking me? in fact, sergei safer never writes back to lev again. >> he cut me off from that conversation. what happens next after he did not hear back with shefir. he relayed back to rudy giuliani in washington or at least in the united states that it was in lev's word a "no-go." the threat is to cancel his plans of the inauguration. the way lev told the story he relayed home to washington, it is a no go. they're not going to do it. rudy told him they'll see. the 13th, mike pence would cancel his trip go to zelensky's inauguration. that's what lev threatened on behalf of the white house. the way lev explained it and lev laid out this bomb shell assertion of vice president mike pence of his involvement in this scheme on this pressure campaign in ukraine to make a visit and all these other things that the ukrainian government wanted and needed from the u.s. government making it contingent on announcing t

>> yes, i did. >> sergey shaffer is a very senior aide to president zelensky. >> correct. >> it has been reported as far as we understand from public reporting that you conveyed to mr. shaffer the exact quid pro quo, you that wanted zelensky to announce investigations into joe biden or military aid would not be released to ukraine. is that accurate? >> it was a little bit more than that. basically the message that i was supposed to -- that i gave sergey shaffer was a very harsh message that was told to me to give it to him in a very harsh way, not in a pleasant way. >> who told you to give it to him in a harsh way? >> mayor giuliani, rudy, told me. after meeting the president at the white house he called me. the message was it wasn't just military aid, it was all aid. basically, the relationships would be sour, that we would stop giving them any kind of aid. >> unless. >> unless there was an announcement -- several demands at that point. a, the most important was the announcement of the biden investigation. >> did you also convey to him that the u.s. government would stop showing support

did you meet with the sergei shaffer? >> i did. >>> he's a senior aide to president cenk uygur. it's been reported that you conveyed to mr. shaffer the exact quid pro quo, you wanted zelensky to announce investigations into biden or sells military aid would not be released. is that accurate? >> it was more than that. basically the message i gave sergei shaffer, i was told to give it to him in a harsh way. >> who told you that? >> mayor rudy giuliani told me after, you know meeting with the president at the white house, the message was it wasn't just military aid, it was all aid. basically their relationships would be sour, that we would stop giving them any kind of aid -- >> unless? >> -- unless -- there were several demands at that point. a, the most important was the announcement of the biden investigation. >> did you also convey to him that the u.s. government would stop showing support for mr. zelensky, that they wouldn't attend the inauguration? >> that was the biggest thing, actually, the main -- because at that time you have to understand the way ukraine is. for president

. >> did you meet with the ukrainian official samd sergei shaffer? >> yes, i did. >> very senior aid. >> correct. >> it has been reported from public reporting that you conveyed to mr. shaffer the exact quid pro quo that you wanted zelensky to announce investigations into joe biden, or military aid would not be released to ukraine. is that accurate? >> it was a little bit more than that. basically the message that i was supposed to -- that i gave sergei shaffer was a very harsh message that was told to me to give it to him in a very harsh way, not in a pleasant way. >> who told you to give it to him in a harsh way? >> mayor rudy giuliani, he called me, the message was, wasn't just military aid, all aid, the relationships would be sour, that we would stop giving them any kind of aid, that -- >> unless? >> unless there was an a -- well, several things, several demands at that point, "a," the most important was was the announcement of the biden investigation. >> so that was all just from the one tv interview he did with rachel. as i mentioned earlier we