sergey andrey sergey vladimirovich hello, good afternoon. well, we probably know how the interview will be structured the main question , to which i would like to get an answer, but in any case to speculate on this topic, and from poland they are preparing such, probably the main, uh, striking force and arming the question. now against whom because i will refer to the statement of the minister of defense of poland that in 2 years his side will be the most formidable military force in europe but this is a serious statement. what is it for? well, it's a suggestion. naturally, the russian threat and, accordingly, preparations to repel russian aggression, as regards the timing of e-e , yes, according to the law that was adopted in poland a year ago on the defense of the fatherland , a significant or significant increase in defense spending is expected, starting from this 23 year. not in the future will to be at least three percent of gdp , the task was set to double more than double the number of polish armed forces c 150. well, now 160 to 300,000 people, but the milestone is not marked for 2 years, but somewhere in the mid-thirties. well , the minister of defense. he is also the deputy prime minister-cloak said that in the future he will have more of the strongest land forces. among european nato countries, we have adopted numerous arms programs according to experts. uh, the country expects to spend on the acquisition of new weapons about 10 billion dollars a year, despite the fact that the entire military budget of poland in the past twenty-second year was 12 billion dollars, spending not only from the budget, but also outside the budget funds. so the ambitions are big in terms of their implementation. here, of course, there may be questions, because there are more than enough problems. here you rightly noticed. and where did the money come from, how did our classic and vladimir vysotsky , uh, did poland have problems in the economy? yes, now they are talking about the fact that the ukrainian free labor force is, of course, free of charge relative to the polish one, and greatly helps the polish economy to save. eh, work and so on. and yet. oh yes, the poles even benefit from certain things in some ways, but the actions that they are doing now in some ways they lose, and yet. what is the assessment now, well , you can see local experts in the economy of poland in order to implement this program. well, you need money. and what kind of extra-budgetary funds do you know, i probably won’t give you convincing answers to these questions. and just because i don't know these answers, at the moment, the economic situation in poland as a whole is quite favorable for a relatively favorable, in general, moderate size of the state budget deficit. uh, the public debt is kept within manageable limits, the biggest problem is inflation, which, uh. now at a level of somewhere around 16-17%, in annual terms, but again, against the background of other western european countries , the european unions are not something extraordinary , these are problems that now concern everyone in many ways. this is also due to the voluntary refusal in quotation marks by western countries. here cheap russian energy sources. why did you follow the rise in price of everything that is possible here, but as for. from the future, but then doubts about the lift for the polish economy. here are all of these weapons programs. they are expressed by opposition hmm political scientists, economists , constantly some kind of convincing explanations. uh, while on this account you were not followed, but simply present, as it were , the faith of the authorities that somehow these problems will be resolved. uh, sorry i didn't see detailed explanations, calculations and so on. well, as far as off-budget funds are concerned, securities are lowered due to which , uh, loans are attracted. again, the means of the population. well, and so on. well, these securities. after all, someone buys the population of the business. the question is what form of voluntary voluntary forced or is there something else? this is because they can blame, if a person did not buy these papers, they will say, you are not a patriot of poland there. well, and so on. it doesn't come to that. yes , it does not, of course. but as far as the forced factor is concerned, so to speak. well naturally, let's say a state-owned company, but they can be muffled. let's say strongly, participation in, uh, mobilization of this money, but again, i don't want to go into any details here, just because if people are more competent in this area than me, who so far have not said anything convincing on this topic. well, i don't think there's any particular mystery here. it seems to me that this is just american money that will be poured into poland in order to maintain combat capability and sell and their geopolitical plans, because here we will move on to them, because the impression is created. but what about poland? well, it's not only my impression. it's all about it they say that poland is being prepared for well, if not for a war with russia, then at least. eh, as the boss. you have already said what will happen, the main military force in europe and the military force of the rifle gives rise to power. as the chinese comrades said. and therefore, it means power and gives birth to more over europe. you know, firstly, i categorically disagree with the fact that that e armament is more building it up, and military capabilities will occur at the expense of the americans, this is not the case. everything that poland buys from the united states and from other suppliers is done with polish money, the americans are not at all eager. uh, at some kind of preferential prices, to supply military equipment to large armaments , the poles have to pay for everything. eh, to the fullest . so, uh, even worse for the poles back then. if so, yes, but just let's look at things realistically and don't build anything. there are some illusions about this. yes, i have individual shipments that seem to be at a reduced price, but on closer inspection, it turns out that they are not very suitable. eh, this is the first, second, what concerns, what concerns. the role of poland in europe, yes. uh, prime minister rowiecki's visit to the united states has now taken place, and it seemed to be declared precisely in such a way that poland, uh, is striving to establish its position as the main ally of the closest most trusted ally of the united states in europe and in this regard more e, speaks from more radical positions than the same germany there or france and, uh, proceeds from the fact that this is in the interests of the united states , as far as this is true, there are probably also nuances. but at least they make such a statement. but what about some kind of dominance of poland in europe, uh, which you mentioned. well, you see, such dominance is not built on wishlist alone , real potentials already matter here, it is clear that in this regard, of course, poland is far from being in the first roles in europe in the european union, and nevertheless sergeyvich here i wonder why in poland such a sweet life is obtained relative to other countries, because poland was on subsidies from the european union, it determines germany's claims . give us reparations and so on. why ? because the european union somehow clamped down on these subsidies, referring to the non-democratic approach of the constitutional court, poland and so on. and how can we understand everything at the expense of what the economy feels more good about? as you said? well, uh, in poland in principle, poland in principle, has achieved uh significant success in its economic development over the past 30 years, and especially since joining the european union in 2014 and 2014 . excuse me, from the ninety-second year and up to the covid until the twentieth year, and more constantly, but constantly demonstrated the growth of its gdp, imagine that for almost 30 years. only the positive results of a single year in the red even in times of crisis and so on, of course, were also affect