international russian foreign minister sergey lavrov has called on the sides in the north korean crisis to return to negotiations during his speech just made at the u.n. general assembly with more on that let's cross to our correspondent in you. bring us first of all up to date with what the foreign minister had to say. yes we just heard russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov speak to the united nations general assembly now his words covered a wide number of topics but one theme that seemed to be consistent was the need for diplomacy and international cooperation rather than use of force and tension around the world at one point he quoted the roman philosopher seneca who said that we have to co-exist with each other now it's important in the light of what's going on on the korean peninsula to pay attention to what lavrov said now he addressed he addressed the situation he condemned provocative actions by north korea but he also called for negotiations and a deescalation of the situation on the peninsula let's take a listen to what lever of said. now furthermore we also heard from. he t

well essentially sergey lavrov is noting that on all of these issues it seems as if the status quo is the predominant situation except for the iran nuclear deal or always we heard reporters and the foreign minister referring to when he basically said the iran nuclear deal is settled and he can't really understand why the united states would want to overturn it or reopen it for negotiations in his view in russia's view the deal is working regarding the situation in syria he rejected suggestions that the russians are pushing for any sort of partition of that country into various smaller states he said that is important is trying to end the civil war which is now in its seventh year and regarding the crisis the g.c.c. crisis involving the embargo. mr lavrov noted that the sanctions that affect ordinary citizens should be lifted but he didn't really get into any detail on what should be done to resolve the political disputes other than noting that it is something that has to be addressed. and a that's a picture from the united nations so your lover of just speaking i saw. the u.s. preside

of the trump mocked him as rocket man russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov says it's time for threats to give way to dialogue i asked him about president speech and his threats to destroy north korea do you think that his language his tone and his approach make the world a safer or more dangerous place yes because there are those who have supported threats which have. never solve anything we never supported direct interventions i can say that everyone can sign on to this principle especially when these principles implemented in real life we never supported unilateral actions he went on to suggest there could be a new mediation channel or students are going to shoot we have to come down the hotheads to understand that we do need courses that we need some context if there are those that wish to be mediators i would actively welcome that the media is could be one of the neutral european countries that's an intriguing possibility there are a number of nations that would fit the bill switzerland or perhaps one of the e.u. countries that is not a member of nato and austria finland multi or

headline stories are russian foreign minister sergei lavrov compares the leaders of the us north korea to children in the kindergarten urging them to stop saber rattling and return to dialogue. russian submarines fire rockets terrorist positions in western syria the russian defense ministry saying all targets were hit. by. the time. the. chancellor merkel of germany had hecklers whistling booing her at a campaign rally just ahead of sunday's. live from moscow to the world this is r.t. international i mean o'neill just after ten pm here in moscow this friday september twenty second a little welcome our top story russia has been given new explanations why the u.s. korea are refusing to allow it china suggestion to freeze their military drills a step towards resolving the north korean nuclear crisis that's according to foreign minister sergei lavrov who give a media conference at the u.n. general assembly so hours ago my pen is in new york for art i spoke to him earlier the russian foreign minister was taking questions from reporters at the u.n. . headquarters in the press briefing room a

we've been listening to the russian foreign minister sergey lavrov speaking at the un general assembly just the quickly wrap up a feel the salient points with regards to north korea very topical now criticize the u.s. the lateral sanctions against the north koreans outside of the recently agreed u.n. sanctions saying that you know lateral sanctions don't work and he cited the example of the u.s. blockade of cuba he asked u.n. members to support the road map that's previously been proposed by russia and china encouraging talks instead of threats and wrapped up by saying that russia is committed to the goal of a nuclear free world we're going to take a very short break i'll be back with the latest news headlines more analysis about four minutes time. about your sudden passing i've only just learned you were yourself and taken your last wrong turn. you're out caught up to you as we all knew it would i tell you i'm sorry but only i could so i write these last words in hopes to put to rest these things that i never got off my chest. i remember when we first met my life turned on each breath

and sergei lavrov saying he's seen no facts over the course of the last year.had there been any facts, the likelihood is they would have leaked out by now. both russia and the u.s. saying the trump administration have not hidden their disdain for the leaks that have happened in this investigation and for the reporting of them by the u.s. media in particular. this is another thing that they vehemently agree on. sergei love revolver using this in this instance to bolster his argument that had there been any facts in this case, we would have heard them by now. this is something we've heard all along from the russians. they've simply called this anti-russian hysteria in washington. they have plenty to disagree on, the two sides, at the moment. they are at serious odds over north korea. russia feels that the rhetoric we're hearing from washington is unhelpful over syria, over iran. still russia saying the biggest obstacle to relations is that anti-russian feeling, that russo-phobic hysteria as sergei lavrov put it. >> clare sebastian live in most co, thanks. >>> pre

and north korea continue to trade insults foreign minister sergey lavrov says mediation by a neutral country could help resolve the standoff over pyongyang's nuclear ambitions it is threatening to test the hydrogen bomb in the pacific ocean. the search for survivors of mexico's quake has been extended as crews refuse to give up hope of finding more people alive these are live pictures of the ongoing rescue efforts the seven point one magnitude quake struck central mexico on choose day killing at least two hundred eighty six people that number is expected to rise. britain's prime minister is proposing a two year transition period after it leaves the european union to resume says the u.k. needs the time to make the process easier as she delivered a key spot of policy speech in florence european leaders are giving it mixed reviews. plans to repeal the obamacare health bill in the u.s. have been dealt a blow by senator john mccain he declared his opposition on friday to the republican party's latest proposal to replace health care legislation approved by president obama mccain says the b

russian foreign minister sergei lavrov urged all parties to stick to a diplomatic approach to the korean peninsula crisis condemning both reckless tests of pyongyang and belligerent rhetoric of the u.s. . so we have to keep the hotheads angle to understand that we do need pauses then we need some contact. north korea is expected to address tonight. nation's assembly tomorrow morning reporting in new york trying to top as our team and joining me now to discuss more on the wrap up of the u.n. g.a. former u.s. diplomat jim jatra simplicio thank you monella so the u.n. g.a. is starting to wind down there's a few more days left but not without much controversy of course particularly the speeches given by donald trump thirty lavrov the foreign minister of russia and president rouhani of iran what's your assessment of president trump speech well i think presidents trump speech was really two different speeches he used the word sovereign or sovereignty twenty one times he gave a trump ists america first speech but the content the real heart and substance of it was what amounted to something clos

. >> i now have the honor to give the floor to his excellency, sergey lavrov, minister for foreign affairs of the russian federation. >> translator: mr. president, ladies and gentlemen, in december last year, the general assembly of the united nations passed a resolution on promoting the democratic and equitable world order and it clearly states is is unacceptable to interfere in the internal affairs of states. it does not accept cue ta tas as a wave transfer of power. it underscores the need to exclues from international relations the attempts to exert illegal pressure one state on others and this includes the use of international laws. the absolute majority of member states of the u.n. voted in favor of the resolution. in the minority were found exactly those countries which against the goals and principles of the charter are trying to dominate in global affairs are trying to impose models of developing their own values on states and peoples. they are guided by the polarity which undermines international law. but the world does not stand still. we're pleased to see that the president of

that response by sergey lavrov sounded kind of tongue in cheek.e a comment that is being quoted in the russian media from a senior aide to president putin saying this is essentially this is a raider takeover. and then on the website there was a statement from a spokesperson calling this a blatant violation of international law and also saying that the u.s. secret services have said that they ar conduct a search, forcing diplomatic parties to leave their apartments. i'm sure we'll get a reporting today which is supposed to happen today, which is saturday. that's the deadline for the russians to turn over or to at least vacate that consulate. it's become very sensitive. in fact, there are almost echos of the cold war, natalie. there was video of smoke coming from one of the chimneys of one of the consulate of san francisco. the fire department said don't worry, it's just a smoke alarm. it's not a fire. but then there were allegations by one u.s. lawmaker that this is, indeed, kind of cold war burning documents, et cetera. there's no cover fir nation

calling president trump a mad man after trump mocked him as rocket man russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov says it's time for threats to give way to dialogue i asked him about president speech and his threats to destroy north korea do you think that his language his tone and his approach make the world a safer or more dangerous place yes because although we never supported threats which have never solved anything we never supported direct interventions i can say that everyone can sign on to this principle especially when these principles implemented in real life we never supported unilateral actions he went on to suggest they could be a new mediation channel students. we have to come down the hotheads to understand that we do need courses that we need. if there are those that wish to be mediators i would actively welcome that the media is could be one of the neutral european countries that's an intriguing possibility there are a number of nations that would fit the bill switzerland or perhaps one of the e.u. countries that's not a member of nato oland austria finland multi or sweden sweden

after trump mocked him as rocket man russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov says it's time for threats to give way to dialogue i asked him about president speech and his threats to destroy north korea do you think that his language his tone and his approach make the world a safer or more dangerous place yes because although we never supported threats which have never solved anything we never supported direct interventions i can say that everyone can sign on to this principle especially when these principles implemented in real life we never supported unilateral actions he went on to suggest they could be a new mediation channel students. we have to come down the hotheads to understand that we do need that we need some context if there are those that wish to be mediators i would actively welcome that the media is could be one of the neutral european countries. that's an intriguing possibility there are a number of nations that would fit the bill switzerland or perhaps one of the e.u. countries that's not a member of nato and austria finland mult or sweden sweden would be well placed its

commenting on this back and forth, russia's foreign minister sergey lavrov said moscow didn't start it. and when talking about relations in general, he used a dance analogy. >> translator: regarding the usa, as the president repeatedly said, we are not looking for any nights with this country. we have always been friendly to the american people. open for constructive interaction. but as you know, you need two to tan tango. so far our american partners have been performing a solo break dance again and again. >> let's find out more about the solo break dance. cnn contributor, former moscow bureau chief jill doherty joins me now from moscow. has the u.s. complied in taking out the number of diplomats from have that it had to? happened yesterday on the first. they do say they've complied. this is all the idea that essentially what the united states is saying is this is parity. you have now the same number of diplomats or diplomatic staff e consulat consulates. and that's where this lasp comes in, cyril, of cutting down the number of consulates in the united states. the russian consulates t

interrupt the program because we are going live right now to new york where russian foreign minister sergey lavrov is giving a media conference a day after his address at the u.n. general assembly let's listen. in the u.n. in june has not been exhausted and we have not heard any are reasonable arguments in response to our proposal to start working quoting to the surat map and we have not heard any reasonable arguments by our partners including the united states cannot do this let me remind you that this or old map is very much in line with the four nos as formulated by rex tillerson about a month ago and we are convinced that the un security council should take up this position by the united states and use it more actively as far as exchanging threats is concerned of course this is dead it is unacceptable to watch the reckless experiments of north korea with missiles and nuclear tests but it is also an acceptable to start a war on the korean peninsula he for those threats are converted into practical actions this is what will happen so we need to cool down some hot heads we need to . understand th

secretary of state rex tillerson informing russian foreign minister sergey lavrov in a phone call today. the decision coming from the president himself. >> we've taken a firm and measured action in response to russia's unfortunate decision earlier this year. >> reporter: that decision from vladimir putin last month responding to new u.s. sanctions for moscow's interfering in the election by expelling 755 american diplomats. president trump at the time expressing gratitude. >> i want to thank him because we're trying to cut down on payroll. >> reporter: white house aides later dismissing that as a joke. today's action not kicking out russian diplomats but closing two trade mission annexes and the san francisco consulate general, the oldest russian consulate in the u.s. and a prominent russian lawmaker tonight insisting the u.s. is declaring the hot phase of diplomatic war. >> the trump administration had to respond. this was the right decision. regrettable but necessary. >> reporter: also tonight nbc news has learned former trump campaign chairman paul manafort's notes typed on a phone f

secretary of state rex tillerson and russian foreign minister sergei lavrov met sunday night in new york on the sidelines of the united nations general assembly meeting that was initiated by the u.s. lasted about forty five minutes among the issues discussed was the cooperation on the syrian crisis issues in the middle east and the agreement to bring peace to ukraine according to the u.s. department of state at the two recommitted to the complex military operations in syria reducing the violence and creating the conditions for the geneva process to move forward pursuant to united nations security council resolution the seventy second u.n. general assembly debate will begin tuesday where president donald trump will make his formal debut on the world stage in front of one hundred and ninety three member nations this is a very big week for the president several one on one talks with foreign counterparts are lined up to discuss global issues one a very important meeting he is having later on in the week as a lunch with the leaders of south korea and japan to discuss rising tensions in north

and new york city sergey lavrov the russian foreign minister expressed regret over the rise in tensions that he says was not started by russia and those closures really did signify an all time low. in us russian relations and while tensions seem to have called at this point we can only wait and see if the departure of these last few diplomats will be the last word on the matter. french president emanuel micron has been hit by a fresh wave of criticism after cutting taxes for the wealthy he's responded by saying his latest tax reform is aimed at encouraging investment and promoting talent in the country however many people in paris don't agree mourning the new leader is already becoming a president for the rich and that the reform will only worsen inequality in france ati's charlotte do penske has more. how do you know when you not just rich but your filthy wage. your fast cars and race horses and definitely signs that either than a pretty penny to spend right. well not so much in france where the toys of the rich and famous no longer eligible for tax and that's causing quite a stir if y

want to break into programming you can see the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov speaking at the united nations let's have a listen we do not see any reasonable arguments against our. proposals against starting to work on that and we do not see any explainable reasons why would our partners including the u.s. could not work along the line along the lines i'd like to remind you that the road map is largely in line with the those four nos we which were farm elated by rex tillerson about a month ago. we are convinced that the u.n. security council. should use these positions of the united states more actively if we talk about the exchange of threats naturally it's quite bad. it is unacceptable to simply sit back and look at the nuclear military gambles of the north korea but it is also. unacceptable to start the war on the peninsula. so we have to. keep calm down the hard heads and to understand that we do need pass' that we need some context if there are those who wish to be mediators i would actively welcome that. the mediators could be could be one of the neutral european countri

russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov and u.s. secretary of state rex tillerson held a meeting on the sidelines of the united nations general assembly now the meeting was initiated by the american side the issues discussed specifically were syria and ukraine in syria there are accusations being leveled by the united states that u.s. backed rebel forces were directly attacked by russia now russia says that these rebel forces were not attacked that rather it was only ice still forces that were attacked but the area in question the issue is the city of darryl's or it's important to know that this is taking place as there have been breakthroughs in the negotiations and russia iran and turkey have actually reached a breakthrough a document has been released and deescalation zones are actually being a stablished in the country in the north western regions of syria in the it live province and elsewhere we're actually starting to see breakthroughs in deescalation zones in the country be a stablished as a result of the negotiations that ar

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russian foreign minister sergei lavrov urged all parties to stick to a diplomatic approach to the korean peninsula crisis condemning both reckless tests of pyongyang and belligerent rhetoric of the u.s. . so we have to keep calm down the hotheads to understand that we do need pauses then we need some contact. north korea is expected to address the united nations assembly tomorrow morning reporting in new york trinity chavez r.t. . and for more on the wrap up of the u.n. g.a. i asked former u.s. diplomat jim chatteris for his take on president trump's speech well i think presidents trump speech was really two different speeches he used the word sovereign or sovereignty twenty one times he gave a trump is to america first speech but the content the real heart and substance of it was what amounted to something close to a declaration of war on iran and north korea this was not trump isn't this is not national first to america first this is very dangerous frankly neoconservative globalist belligerency that i think points in a very different direction from the rhetoric that he gave and what ab

headline news stories this hour russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov the leaders . to kindergarten urging them to switch from name calling to dialogue. russian submarines fire rockets all news for a terrorist positions in the west of syria the russian defense ministry say all targets were hit also this hour. even though i am. taking place.

same level it has in america and that they're trying to extend sanctions russian foreign minister sergei lavrov gave the following response to the recent. story was not launched by russia it was started by the u.s. administrator in with the only purpose of the money and u.s. russian relations confirming the u.s. we're not seeking conflict with this country we've always been friendly towards the american people and we're still open to constructive relationships but as you know it takes two to tango now it looks like our american partners a brit don't think i'm. time of the time. we heard from question the decision to shut down the consulate and feel that russia's new ambassador to america as a tough road ahead. i didn't expected i had hoped that at some point this downward spiral in our relationships and we could we could get back to normal this is simply one more for tat it's rather childish i think if we had a little bit more mature leadership within the state department i think it would be helpful the decision by russia most recently to reduce the number of staff was to create parity between

these are the efficient weapons this is the only way forward meanwhile russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov stressed the need for diplomacy on north korea and stir the pressure and threats we've been hearing from the trumpet ministration they will. be met with fire fury things will happen to them like they never thought possible we heard the foreign minister of germany slammed trump for his national ego as and warned against pursuing the interests of just one country you know. and there will be losers. looking around the world today it seems there will be which puts one's own national interests first and is no longer engaged in the bouncing of winches between nations and countries of this world is gaining even more ground national and was worthless as a true principle for a world for this world views describes the world isn't a rino a con of the two ground which everyone has farts and yes everyone else and which everyone has to so the room interests the united states likes to present itself as the leader of the free world but if you look at this year's general assembly speeches it seems lik

our headline stories are russian foreign minister sergei lavrov says the leaders of . north korea. and. urging them. to return to dialogue. russian submarines fire rockets terrorist positions in western syria the russian defense ministry said all targets were. trying. to close. the. chancellor merkel of germany had hecklers.

and north korea continue to trade insults foreign minister sergey lavrov has suggested mediation by an mutual country to help resolve the standoff over pyongyang's nuclear ambitions the north is threatening to test a hydrogen bomb and ocean. but his prime minister has delivered a key policy speech in florence she's proposing a two year transition period after the u.k. leaves the european union to resume says the u.k. needs the time to ensure a smooth withdrawal. the search for survivors of mexico's earthquake has been extended as authorities refused to give up hope of finding more people alive the seven point one magnitude quake struck central mexico on tuesday killing at least two hundred eighty six people. the u.s. department of homeland security is expected to make new recommendations to president donald trump on how to enhanced global security it's thought feeling clued a replacement to trans soon to expire travel ban on people from six muslim majority nations has more from washington d.c. . what we're learning is that the department of homeland security could be replacing the curr

calling president trump a mad man after trump mocked him as rocket man russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov says it's time for threats to give way to dialogue i asked him about president trump's speech and his threats to destroy north korea do you think that his language his tone and his approach make the world a safer or more dangerous place yes because although we never supported threats which have never solved anything we never supported direct interventions i can say that everyone can sign on to this principle especially when these principles implemented in real life were never supported unilateral actions he went on to suggest there could be a new mediation channel or students are going to shoot we have to come down the hotheads to understand that we do need that we need some context if there are those that wish to be mediators i would actively welcome that the media is could be one of the neutral european countries. that's an intriguing possibility there are a number of nations that would fit the bill switzerland or perhaps one of the e.u. countries that's not a member of nato and aus

and north korea to end their provocative exchanges in favor of a crisis prevention dialogue sergey lavrov was speaking at a media briefing at the un general assembly and reports. in donald trump's united nations general assembly speech he referred to kim jong un as a rocket man and talked about a possibility of totally destroying north korea then there was a response from north korea's leader kim jong un said that donald trump was mentally deranged he called him a rogue and he used the old english term doto to refer to donald trump now donald trump has shot back and referred to kim jong un as a madman now as these heated words and accusations and threats are being exchanged the russian foreign minister was taking questions from reporters at the u.n. headquarters in the press briefing room and he touched quite a bit on the crisis on the korean peninsula it's unacceptable to something that north korea's nuclear test but it's equally unacceptable to start with the korean peninsula china and russia will continue to insist on a move reasonable approach in contrast to the emotional one we see n

state rex tillerson informing russian foreign minister sergei lavrov, in a phone call the decision coming from the president. >> we've taken a firm action in response to russia's infortunate decision earlier this year. >> that decision from vladimir putin last month responding to new u.s. sanctions from moscow's interfering in the election by expelling 755 american diplomats. president trump at the time expressing gratitude. >> i want to thank him because we're trying to cut down our payroll. >> white house aides dismissing that as a joke. today's action not kicking out russian diplomats, but closing two trade mission annexes and the san francisco consulate general. and a prominent russian lawmaker insisting the u.s. is declaring the hot phase of diplomatic war. >> the trump administration had to respond. this was the right decision. regrettable, but necessary. >> nbc news has learned former trump campaign chairman paul manafort's notes typed on a phone from the controversial trump tower meeting with russians during the 2016 campaign included a reference to political donations and rnc. ac

a step towards resolving the north korean nuclear crisis that's according to foreign minister sergei lavrov food just a short time ago finished his media conference at the u.n. general assembly well for more on all this we can force live in york kaleb we were both just listening in that one of the first things we saw the foreign minister say was that war on the korean peninsula is all except well what else do you have to say in the fifteen minute talk. while the russian foreign minister was taking questions from reporters at the u.n. headquarters in the press briefing room and he touched quite a bit on the crisis on the korean peninsula one of the main thrusts of his comments was that there should be a rational solution and that the kind of heated dialogue we've been hearing from the united states and from korean leaders is not going to solve the crisis he directly spoke about the need for for rational words to be used for diplomacy this is a lab or of addressing the crisis on the korean peninsula sudha the as i said at the general assembly each and every one of the u.n. security council re

secretary of state the rex tillerson already had he's bidding with his russian counterpart sergei lavrov but it's still unclear at this point he's going to miss a bit of the russian president do you expect anything substantial to come out of his russia visit. i actually do i think the despite the obviously tense introduction that. secretary teller hsan and lavrov had where there was no eye contact made on purpose by secretary lavrov the two of them said down and once the initial posturing for the cameras was all said and done the people that didn't really need to be in the meeting left and then the governments could sit down and start getting down to the real facts the real basis and start discussing what about the chemical attack one of the objectives of each country both in syria and for the region and so i think that there was some very good discussions these had to take place following these strikes to not do them what i think a been more detrimental to both country's interests in the region while commander on the eve of this meeting the russian official said that di expect ations fo

minister zhou yi flatly on has been holding talks in moscow today with his russian counterpart sergei lavrov. making this a third set of talks between gm and since president amanda knockoffs of office four months ago. whatever of under the real you discussing a whole range of his it's from ukraine it's in libya to north korea. on the question of syria leo outlined house he sees events unfolding. when each the other forms of france as four basic principles in order to identify the actors that are likely to drive forward the political process. we. that bower. real little small minor the renunciation of all use of chemical weapons. the willingness and determination to eradicate all forms of terrorism only i think it would be fun to kill his. the granting of access to humanitarian aid to everyone everywhere. by that i mean to civilians everywhere. and that everyone of these actors in syria. omits disease principles so that a ceasefire can allow for the political process to begin. you deserve it on. a french horn has speaking that in moscow. pope francis is considering his five day tour of columb

president of the united states i will always put america first meanwhile russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov stressed the need for diplomacy on north korea and stir the pressure and threats we've been hearing from the trumpet ministration they will be met with fire fury things will happen like they never thought possible and the united states seems to be out there on their own when it comes to the iran nuclear deal donald trump called it one of the worst and most one sided transactions that the united states has ever entered into france things differently. i would like to defend the nuclear agreement with iran are engaged went on nonproliferation allowed us to work out on the fourteenth of july two thousand and fifteen a solid robust and verifiable agreement that enables us to ensure that iran does not obtain nuclear weapons renouncing it would be a great era this could apply to north korea to immediately dialogue control multi-lateralism these are the efficient weapons this is the only way forward the united states likes to present itself as the leader of the free world but if you look at t

secretary of state rex tillerson already had he's beating with his russian counterpart sergey lavrov but it's still unclear at this point rather he is going to meet to be had the russian president do you expect anything substantial to come out of his russia visit. i actually do i think the despite the obviously tense introduction the. secretary telephone and lavrov had where there was no eye contact made on purpose by secretary lavrov the two of them said down and once the initial posturing for the cameras was all said and done the people that didn't really need to be in the meeting left and then the governments could sit down and start getting down to the real facts the real basis and start discussing what about the chemical attack one of the objectives of each country both in syria and for the region and so i think that there was some very.