sergey ryabukhin sergey nikolayevich hello, so according to the latest data, the share of illicit trafficking in strong alcohol production in the past 2022 amounted to 20%, which is a lot. and what are the losses, uh, besides the losses that people receive from this counterfeit alcohol, the economic losses states from the shadow trade in alcohol and in general. what is the current situation with the sale of counterfeit goods? well, i have several seven-digit numbers, i don’t share. here is an expert forecast or assessment of last year, they are 20%, i think much more, at least 30%. more rigid. an expert who approves about 40%. i keep it all. somewhere this is a real figure, approximately 30% - this is the share of illegal criminal counterfeit trade in strong alcohol, but we must admit that we succeeded at the site of the council the federation, together with the colleagues of the state duma, is topilin there. maxim anatolyevich is engaged in the relevant committee and the government , we managed to halve the volume of counterfeit goods. after all, just 7 years ago, the volume of counterfeit goods was 52%. now here is an optimistic forecast of 20, but, i think, even 30. well, that is, we grabbed it twice . anyway, this is a large volume, your question is correct , and there are not only losses, about 90 billion rubles, which should be credited to regional budget revenues to social programs. there is the improvement of citizens and so on. well, it is important that the criminal structure is used to use technical methane backs of technical alcohols, they cause enormous damage to health, and with a special outcome. we know and they will bring sausage. according to the results of the year before last, the total number of deaths was about 2,000 people and loss of health, but also with a fatal outcome of 2,000. and it is this that needs to be fought, therefore the activities of our intervention working group, which we created in next time on the initiative of svetlana matvienko together with the government. it just has a concrete result - we have reduced the volume of counterfeit goods. in total, the addition was made to the concentrated budget of the country, approximately 400 billion. over these 7 years, but this is nothing compared to human life, so we need to put things in order here. and as for the counterfeit itself, it is seized, what happens to it. then it is stored somewhere, it is in warehouses. how much time and when is it subject to e destruction, well the structure of the counterfeit, it is so complex , there is alcohol, which was produced according to the technical requirements in accordance with gost according to the standard, but without a license. that is, it is illegal, it is high-quality alcohol, but it is defined illegally, it must be seized, it is collected and stored in warehouses of rospirom, and we have achieved such a consolidated decision together with the government that it can be used to produce antiseptics or some other things that are related can be used in perfumery. that is, it is normal good alcohol that can be used such alcohol is stored, approximately 22 million tons of alcohol, alcohol is in the warehouses of forspirom, and we are putting it into production there is another category, which means that it is made on technical alcohols with dyes with flavoring additives and so on, but drink it it is forbidden. there are also a lot of such counterfeit herbs in warehouses, and we are striving right now and have even submitted an initiative to the state duma to get us supported by the deputies, who support counterfeit of this kind, which is a surrogate, which cannot be applied visiting a three-year period without trial and investigation. it is necessary to destroy the beer drinks of beer, sidor is illegal or of poor quality there means. with the addition of alcohol, it's just not malt alcohol. uh, beer is just some kind of contract. that , too, must be destroyed. for 7 years , 126 million tons of such illegal counterfeit goods have been accumulated in warehouses , our offer is such after the expiration of the storage period, when it’s even uh, here’s a quality product, well, for not yet a three-year period. it becomes of poor quality and must be destroyed. we are now looking for a compromise formulation. why because there is a constitutional norm without a trial , it is impossible to destroy the property of citizens, i do not consider a criminal. these are good citizens. i insist more radically, but if he committed a crime that damages economic states and people's health, then he must be destroyed and there is no need to hide behind the norms of the constitution, but unfortunately, it’s not the ministry of justice that stands firm on that that you still need to go through the process of judicial review. and this is a very long period. we have many cases where equipment is stored 47.000 tons of equipment is now loitering in warehouses and waiting for their decision for 7 years, 5 years, 8 years. well, this disgrace, of course, was signed by the president, and the law on the creation of a special register on the basis of rosco-alcohol is the regulation of a special register, just for producers of beer and beer drinks, including the one mentioned by sidorov, what will change and how this one will change, and the law will affect the current situation, so that there would not be such a volume of confiscated counterfeit goods, if the country annually produces strong alcohol, approximately 200 million decaliters, 200 million relatively speaking, yes, but ten liters, and beer we also produce beer beer products. uh, that is, drinks have approximately 800 million decolites 800 million hips, and here the situation is much more complicated, if we still somehow put things in order for the traceability of the quality control of the state control and quality system, then in pvp unfortunately, according to my estimates, about from 35 to 40%, uh, brewers . they are out of control and in terms of taxation in terms of consumer qualities, and we often see in the case where law enforcement and the ministry of the interior trade inspection. rospotrebnadzor opens a case where beer. uh, well, this is a real surrogate. this is not written by soldiers, which from time immemorial has been made on malt, but with the addition of some voice additives to the russian or there, and this is poison, that is, it adds a little alcohol, and low-quality alcohol there alcohol and dye additives, of course, this must be fought. this is direct damage, not only to the country's budget, but also to the region, because a very large amount of excise taxes on beer is credited to regional budgets. but most importantly, this drink poisons damage, wrong damage. the health of citizens. consumer quality, just not they do not stand up to any e norm. and this is the law you mentioned, it puts things in order. how a grew alcohol regulates how the authorized bodies of the ministry of finance. he owes compile a unified state register of all manufacturers. if you want to produce beer will be kind, sign up for payment. she is a small piston. there i attached ten thousand rubles and, please, they produced a second norm, which requires the manufacturer of brewing products to become a metering device, that is, ordinary counters are still checks. why because if there was such a norm, if you produce less than three hundred thousand buckets of beer a year, then you don’t need to install meters, but since they cost. the task is getting out of hand control zones and traceable. this is also bad, so the law is assumed. here is the cut-off rate of 100,000 buckets. that is, if you produce more than 100,000, uh, deciliters, uh, beer, you must definitely supply a metering device and the egoist system, which is mandatory in accordance with federal law 171 for the production and circulation of alcohol creeps. these rules also apply to beer producers, and i want to say that these rules will not lead to an increase in prices, because some, when discussing this bill was feared that, while the scene for beer or beer drinks or vapors would increase, this would work for the quality and collection of income from a concentrated budget. the price here will not suffer in any way, because the egoist system has already been worked out for years, it has existed for a long time and will not be required here. nothing , just we'll put things in order here. a month and a half remains before one of the most important events aimed at protecting the environment. at the end of may, st. petersburg will host the tenth nevsky international ecological congress, hundreds of participants of experts will gather in the northern capital to improve the legislation in this area, change experiences, form a safe environmental agenda , and also discuss recovery on the sidelines of the forum. a round table discussion will be devoted to this topic, and senator sergeyrgey pavlovich will take part in the cleaning of rivers and lakes, an extensive topic on which exactly attention will be focused. what information do you plan to share with the congress participants, in fact, there are a lot of questions stands at this congress, because president putin's address was focused on this issue, too, because it would seem that the russian federation is a large country with a lot of water, but little is paid to clean up rivers and lakes. uh, such as baikal near lake baikal, three large subjects of the russian federation are involved in the cleanup, and a lot of work is underway. uh, eight directions. i mean the eight directions are arteries. this is the volga kama irtysh lake ilmen and so on all the terek in the caucasus in the north because that such arteries, they are, as it were , the main source of supply for the seats of russia, there are already a lot of budgetary funds issued for cleaning. e construction of cascade directions on these rivers, and specia