and then sergi. yes. >> thank you. u.s. european command. question to you about the information, the russian propaganda. it's clearly an effort we're not winning, and a lot of this is due to one, the unified nature of the russian information warfare, state run media. but also the fact that their propaganda isn't so much convincing, but making them doubt everything. even doubting the truth. besides pure capabilities. do you think our approach of countering their propaganda is working when frankly the populous is trying to influence is very cynical of anything to include the truth or do you think we need a new approach? >> okay, i want to exercise two options. first, the russian invasion, for example. and second, russian massive cyberattack. for example, against estonia, where a government is strongly reliant on internet and israeli government. in fact, all for example, very important financial in eastern europe. is this the case for article five? >> one more question or comment. gone. back to the panel. and you can conclude as well. >> yeah,