talking about let's talk further, the head of the ukrainian center for security and cooperation, serhiy kuzanod evening, we have actually been hearing for several weeks, maybe even months in a row, that bakhmut is not strategic, it is strategically important for russia, and what strategic importance does bakhmut have for ukraine? it's easy to understand , including the logic of the ukrainian political and military leadership, we know that the president's office announced yesterday that ukraine had decided to defend bakhmut - this is strikingly different from the way the ukrainian side behaved during the defense of severodonetsk and lysychansk, when the decision was made to withdraw , what if the reason lies in this, well , it must be understood that bakhmut is integrated into a single system, so to speak, of a fortified district , which includes the city of bakhmut and siversk directly uh, in the north and in the past, that is , and here is this entire fortified area. by the way, where is it located in the area of, for example, the temporary ravine , there is a vesifier there, our prepared po

serhii kuzan , the head of the ukrainian center for security and cooperation, was with us on a directeo call , and in his opinion, the question of how how effectively ukraine defends itself against russian aggression today depends to a greater extent on how quickly and in sufficient quantities we will receive weapons from our partners than on what russia is planning or doing there the federation continues, a new day continues, the marathon continues, the only news is that it is continued by our colleagues, we are asking you to keep yourself, believe in ukraine , in our armed forces and that we will definitely win, have a safe day for you, help the armed forces , until we meet, the enemies must be stopped, protect your own, fight, take revenge, because it is war - this is revenge for mariupol and bucha for the dnipro and stanislavsky hills for the ayu-dag and every latticed roof for every foreign scar the ministry of internal affairs of ukraine is forming special brigades of the national guard of the state border service and the national the police are elite combat units equipped with

suggested last week that the russians may soon capture the city, and military expert serhiy is in touch with us kuzan, mr. serhiy, i congratulate you on the air, the ukrainian command stated that it is strategically important to hold the bakhmut in order to prepare a reserve for the future offensive in order to inflict losses on the wagner pvk, what losses will the ukrainian army suffer during this defense , from what is officially known, and in general , in your opinion, this strategic importance of the bakhmut remains first of all, to the brothers. of course , during the war, even an approximate list of our losses cannot be made public, but in general , we understand the proportion of losses itself . the secretary of the nsdc, danilov, made these numbers public. one to seven, that is, for one of our fighters destroyed, there are seven russian western ones, some analysts give more modest numbers , they published the number one to five, this is a ratio, but in any case, these are extremely large losses, because, well, standard such normal losses are considered one to three that is, it is still more t

military bureaucrats, this is minister shoigu and, of course, commander gerasimov, for the comment serhiy kuzan, head of the ukrainian center for security and cooperation , a military expert was on radio liberty, thank you , radio liberty will monitor the situation in bakhmut as well as history around a ukrainian prisoner of war who was apparently shot in donetsk region. how will this story end? in order not to miss anything, subscribe to the channel and radio svoboda in social networks to the pages in instagram, telegram, facebook, twitter and facebook in viber, and also on two channels on youtube, radio svoboda and radio svoboda ukraine , and subscribe with your questions, lines , comments, remarks, you can always leave them in the chat under the broadcast, we read everything and as quickly as possible on them we will respond, we will continue to work for you installation on the website of radio svoboda well , the svoboda life program will be back on the air tomorrow, movies, television , sports, music, education, free people have a choice, choose what you want on megogo, there are times when