not only the conversation of the journalist and publicist vitaly portnikov with the historian serhii plakhi, see further on our broadcast greetings, friends, i congratulate you all on the holiday and the interlocutors of our broadcast today, ukrainian and american historian, professor of the department of ukrainian history at harvard university, serhiy platyi , i congratulate you, mr. serhiy, and i also congratulate you on independence day. thank you very much . i congratulate you on the holiday. you personally with the presentation of the taras shevchenko award , this is a very important marker for this award of your award. thank you. a sign of bad taste, but i will tell you that there were not many history books that i read with such interest as the last school textbook on the history of russia, written by the former minister of culture of the russian federation, medinsky , and the rector of the moscow institute of international relations, because you know when i read books by historians of your books i think that the gate of europe is such a beautiful philip from such an analysis of ukra

responsibility for this terrible war, and not only journalists, publicist vitaly portnikov and historian serhii plakhiyou can see this interview tomorrow, august 24 at 4:15 p.m. in the special project espresso ukraine the price of freedom questions today's russian aggression against ukraine is it putin's war or is it russia's war, and it is clear that putin is a very important figure in all of this history, but it is also a product produced by russian society , as hitler was provoked and something produced by german society, and this society creates this the model of the state and this model of behavior and this model of behavior creates a society. so i think that by the way, the limit of how much it is some regime that occupied the country de-iore or de-facto and this is an important component is their responsibility the irresponsibility of the company and the responsibility of the joint, such were the news at this time, we will meet you at 3 p.m. literally in a moment, meet my colleagues vasyl zima and oksana vysochanska, who will continue the broadcast of espresso at 14:11 almost on the clock, and

you literally in a few minutes there will be my conversation with the famous ukrainian historian serhiy plakhind wait for this important conversation this is important for me at least dialogue success congratulations friends i congratulate you happy holiday to everyone and our interlocutors on today's broadcast , ukrainian and american historian, professor of the department of ukrainian history at harvard university serhii plakhtiy i congratulate you, mr. serhiy, and i also congratulate you on independence day thank you very much i congratulate you on the holiday i congratulate all the viewers and listeners on the holiday and you personally on the awarding of the taras shevchenko award - this is a very important marker for this award your award thank you i want to talk about historical memory and you know i have to admit it of course yes, hehe, it sounds like a healer with stupid taste, but i will tell you that there were not many historical books that i read with such interest as the last school textbook on the history of russia, which was written by the former minister of culture of the russ