nothing i did not, we will discuss the subject of the detention and trial of ihor mazepa further, serhiy fursa, an investment banker, joins the broadcast, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, mr. serhiy, the detention of ihor mazepa shook the information space in ukraine today. but maybe it is not so well known to the general public, why do you think this matter is important? well, this thing, i don't know why it's important, really. so far, the effect of it is negative, first of all in publications on bloomberg, where they wrote that a businessman who fought with corruption, and in principle, the entire ukrainian business perceived it not as a fight against crime, not as a fight for justice, but as an element of potential pressure and as an effort by law enforcement officers, or to play some business games, or to earn money, this is the perception of this case , such a perception of such a thing. what kind of justice, because no one judges justly or unjustly, whether there was a subject for his own investigation or not. the question is different: there is simply a catastrophic lack of trus

useless, well useless, so useless, as i call it , that's right, and we already have our next guest, serhiy fursabanker, joins our air, mr. serhiy, welcome, congratulations , thank you for waiting for the fun. themselves with ours previous guests, and let's get right down to business, the european union is preparing a new package of sanctions against russia, timed, if you can say so, to the anniversary of the invasion, to the anniversary, in my opinion, of russia's full-scale invasion of ukraine. i understand that there will be nothing against rosatom. there will not be and never will be official sanctions against rosatom. this is a very specific topic. therefore, there will be no sanctions, see, on parosatomo. we need to understand that they do not officially impose sanctions, but many months ago in the g7 country we formed such a non-public or public, but not official pak. that they will squeeze rosatom out of the markets and simply will not formalize it officially, therefore there will be no official sanctions, what will be in the 13th package of sanctions, i have no idea, well, because they h