about... matters of peace and war, and with our next guest, our colleague, journalist, analyst, serhiy garmash touch with us, mr. serhiy, congratulations, good morning, mr. sergey, here is the situation, we spent a whole week trying to find out whether the secret plan of victory, which is being taken to washington, and the secret plan of peace, which is being prepared for the second summit, are two different documents or one and the same, what we just didn't listen, but now the next... the next level shows to us, that we do not have an answer to the key question, the second peace summit, which is being so hastily prepared for november, will be 100% held with the participation of the russians, and our side already recognizes this, because until then we were explained that no, russia will somehow be represented there , but now they finally say, we will prepare a peace summit without russia, and for what? very pro... such contrary information, i did not hear that we will prepare a peace summit without russia, but i think that we sent a clear signal to the russian federation that we are ready ther

people and holo, and deputy, member of the committee on foreign affairs politicians, and also serhiy garmashurnalist and editor-in-chief of the internet publication ostrov, a former member of the tripartite contact group in minsk, we talked about the publication and everything that is laid out in the publicationist, which is among other things. says that ukraine needs to change the course of the war. thank you very much. we have everything for today. i encourage you to subscribe to radio liberty's website. like this broadcast. in this way, you will support our work. well, svoboda live will return to the air tomorrow. old atalanta only on mego. the players plan to spoil the evening of the italian goddess and continue the fight for the playoffs of the champions league. cheer on october 2 at 7:45 p.m. exclusive no name gogogo. the espresso library presents the book the marshall plan - the dawn of the cold war. the marshall plan is a program of economic assistance to european states after the second world war, and the marshall plan is not only history, it is the key to understanding how to turn

and serhiy garmash, journalist and editor-in-chief of the ostro internet publication, a former member contact group in minsk, has already joined our broadcast. i i congratulate you, serhiy. and elizaveta yasko, people's deputy, servant of the people and representative of the committee on foreign policy, elizaveta, also joined our broadcast. i congratulate you. good day. we are talking about the publication of zaekonmist, which says that if ukraine and its allies want to win, then they first. they must have the courage to admit that they will lose, and zaekonomiz writes that the war is going badly, that ukraine and its allies need to change course, and it is obvious that the goal of reaching the borders of 1991 is no longer visible as realistic as it could ever be. i have the same question for you: do you think it is time for a change in this course? elizaveta, let's start with you. well, first of all, not every article should be taken as absolutely true, it is only the position of those who wrote them, moreover, it may be related to certain political interests that are currently ragin