for example, this award is a remark from the members of the jury they said no give everything serhiy meydukovdon't refuse our award, we will ask lyudmila in the summer well, okay, to delete it, we will not give her this award, only you leaving us like this there is not, and we see that ukrainian culture is far from having the weight that russian culture has, because the soviet union and russia invested an incredible amount of money both directly in art and in establishing ties. therefore, this process of shifting is very very difficult, and in particular also because we see that the state has completely removed itself from this process, neither the ministry of culture nor the state agency for cinema does almost anything, moreover, in a recent interview with me, the deputy head of the state cinema, maryna kudarchuk, maksym oleksandrov said that he doesn't see any problems abroad at all, no culture war. let's put it this way, we won't lose information at all. kate, but the opinion of our cinematographers is, unfortunately, now you will hear my conversation with the producer olga bez khmelnytsky