now we are reestablishing the connection, we are talking with serhiy vasotsky, he is the deputy head of the public organization national association of defense industry of ukraine for strategic communication, now we are continuing our conversation, mr. serhiy, continue if possible, yes, yes, yes, i was talking about what companies, private companies, not only in our association, in general , companies that have shown a very successful example of cooperation and... conversion with western partners in the production of ammunition, here i am also talking about the line of ammunition, have demonstrated over the last year soviet calibers 152, 122, as well as nato calibers, 155 - artillery caliber, and there are 82nd or 120th mines for mortars, and this conversion is of course expanding, we hope that we will be able to private ukrainian companies will be able to put in 30, 40, or maybe twice as much. munitions for the needs of the defense forces already this year, there are high-tech developments, we take an active part in such conversion programs with western partners to strengthen air def