now we are reestablishing contact, we are talking with serhiy vesotsky, he is the deputy head of the public organization national association of defense industry of ukraine for strategic communication, now we are continuing our conversation, mr. serhiy, continue if possible, yes, yes, yes, yes. i said about what was demonstrated for the last year companies, private companies , not only in our association, in general there are a number of companies that have demonstrated a very successful example of cooperation and conversion with western partners in the manufacture of ammunition, here i am talking about the line of ammunition of soviet calibers 152, 122, as well as nato calibers , 155 artillery caliber, and there the 82nd or 120th. mines for mortars, and this conversion, of course, is expanding, we hope that we will be able to put in 30, 40, or maybe twice as much ammunition for the needs of the defense forces already this year, there are high-tech developments, we take a very active part in such conversion programs with western partners to strengthen ppon, for the sake of strengtheni