his name is seth camillo and seth, i want to welcomom you fifit to the program. i know you and your wife now california. seth is here today to talk about a tremenus effort on his part called gridiron heroes. a full-length, i believe 77 minutes, full-length documentary based on the utory of a young man hurt in high schoho and i we're going to show the trailer in a moment. you're a university of iowa graduate and in cinema and comparative lliterature. before we start about, this tell me about why you like documentary producing and why you got into it. >> seth: that's an interesting question and it happened as an undergraduate. fiction films require lots and lots of paem to make and it -- people to make and it takes a lot of resources. was something i just got into because it was something i could do, not on my own completely, but it was something you could have an idea and realize witho involving a lot of other people and needing financing to the same extent you need for a fiction film. that's really how i got into it. it's a way to be able to tell stories and then