joining us morgan stanley chief global economist seth carpenter. our baseline view is that the first rate cut comes in june. we heard conversations, communications earlier in the week, the market reacted to what governor waller said and i don't think it was the reaction they were looking for. he was trying to talk generally about what's going on and that's always the risk when fed officials speak, particularly when it's chair powell. i think he's going to try to say they're committed to 2%, they're going to sort of assess it as it comes in. there's always the chance it gets a little bit -- he's going to try not to sound overly dovish. >> it's hard to sound hawkish, because the data is pointing him in the dovish direction, and that's the challenge? >> i think that's right. they have clearly come off of that sort of bias towards more and more hikes. that's been our call for a while. the market has priced that in now. it's going to be hard to lean too much. on the other hand, the point we tried to make for a long time, it's going to be a long road to