seth dillon is the man who made that happen it back down "the new york times," and we are honored to s tonight. seth, thanks so much for coming on. i don't know how it happened, it got so great. it was good but then it got amazing. but i didn't realize that you had the holy ghost to go "the new york times." good for you. >> thank you for having me on your show and giving a platform from which to misinform her millions of viewers. harmfully and maliciously. >> tucker: [laughs] any time, that's what we do. they look to snopes and they look to cnn. we have to send demand letters and we have to threaten to sue otherwise we get mischaracterized and get the boot from social media. >> tucker: and so it's not just a question of honor, not just a duel. they insulted you, it's a direct threat to your business model. >> absolutely. depend on social networks for traffic to our site and if we lose the social networks and we lose our business. it's really a self-preservation thing, it's about survival. >> tucker: how interesting, i misread this completely. "the new york times" by calling it disinfo