seth jones, does this... what you know of this agreement, does it represent a step forward in our relationship with afghanistan? >> well, i think what it does do is, it ensures that the united states does not make the mistake that it made in... at the end of the soviet wars, and that is completely leave. but what it doesn't do is, we have no indication of what the u.s. military footprint will be, how much aid it's going to continue to give, and what the very specifics of the u.s. relationship with afghanistan will be like after 2014. none of that is in this agreement. >> ifill: does this mean that this agreement, brian katulis, this agreement is about what's not going to happen as opposed to what is going to happen? >> i actually think this is a very important agreement in sending a message, reassuring the afghans of enduring support at a time of transition. the u.s. is bringing its troops home. we have a plan to get down to 68,000 troops by the end of this year. they're going to reassess those levels, but i

seth jones, what struck you the most about those remarks? >> well, i think it's very clear that the president is committed to pulling.s. forcesut o ahanistan especially combat forces. and his comment that the pace will be consistent and the forces will leave i think gives everybody a sense that he is committed to withdrawing the vast majority of the american forces from afghanistan. i think the trend is very clear. >> ifill: brian katulis, he laid out a lot of ideas for how the u.s. and the afghan forces will collaborate in the next year or two. are they achievable? >> i think they are. i think this speech was trying to strike the right balance between trantion and ending th phase of th war. and offering enduring support. i think some of the most difficult challenges will come actually in the political and diplomatic sphere. he talked about peace with the taliban. he talked about the need to build enduring afghan institutions. i think this is one of the most difficult tasks, especially the diplomacy with elements of the taliban. because it's

i am pleased to have seth jones back at this table. welcome. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: good to see you. why do you call it "hunting in the shadows"? >> well, i think argument as we look historically at what's been effective is not a large american presence with large numbers of boots on the ground. it's been a war that's happened in the shadows by clandestine units, special operation forces, law enforcement. so the for... we've been more effective when we've had limited presence that's clandestine, covert in nature than a large boots on the ground presence like we had in iraq. >> rose: does that mean that you would have argued for counterterrorism versus counterinsurgency if there was an either or about it or would you have argued something different at the time the president was making decisions about an afghanistan policy and then a time the president rewas examining policy. >> no, i don't think smaller numbers of boots on the ground means counterterrorism as oppose to counterinsurgency. i think what we've seen starting with ge

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steve is working on one, seth jones from the rand corporation is working on the other one. david mariner is working on another biography at this time, and there are lot of great books that come out every year by serious journalists/historians that are worth reading. walter isaacson's book on steve jobs was a pert example of that -- perfect example of that. and with good reason because of all the things we could learn from it. >> host: what are you currently reading? >> guest: i'm read ago lot of things. i read a wonderful book called "blood knots," i loved that. i'm reading about the '48 campaign. that was really wild. harry truman and henry wallace and be strom thurmond and dewey, first election after the war. so i'm reading terry anderson and the book about george bush and how he decided to go to war. my wife just finished katherine the great which was given to me, and she picked it off, so i've got to get involved in that. i read a lot of magazine stuff, a lot of essays. i read a -- i actually opened up a correspondence with a poet by the name of donald hall as a result

work of the recent publication by recommended counterterrorism ends and also took a look at the seth jonesn the first paragraph say in all terrorist groups in the. of course i think we have to ask ourselves in a panel like this when we are dealing with al qaeda is this a case that breaks the mold. is there a mold braking case because if you start thinking about all the types of endings that are imagined in the studies, there are limits to the number of outcomes but there are some outcomes that have been imagined because the cases are so localized. so the six cases that cronin envisions he seems to have the broadest number of possible outcomes, all of them are either ones that have been attempted were considered for al qaeda come and i did that with the scene in the discussions today and certainly with your comments nobody is very clear that any of them are going to bring an end to al qaeda be made to cavitation, the decapitated al qaeda for all intents and purposes we killed the head of the organization and it did not, it is an extraordinarily resilient organization. it's transnational. it

this week the latest release from seth jones "hunting the shadows" the pursuit of al qaeda since 9/11he rand analyst developer of the graveyard of empires documents the entire u.s. war against al qaeda giving classified information from the cia and fbi as well as interviews with current and former officials of the u.s. government. this week's guest host intelligence reporter kimberly dozier. >> host: said, welcome to booktv and now is my chance to ask you all the questions i have wanted to ask as i've watched your career move in the past few years. time on the ground in afghanistan come the top special operations commander is both here and in the field. and who had been in the think-tank world, so let's launch with your new book, "hunting the shadows." you talk about the three ways about qaeda violence and a possible third wave. before you get into the evolution of how you track back, how the u.s. intelligence and national security world has track back, can we talk about the health of the organization? we just passed a major milestone with the one-year anniversary of the osama bin lad

martha: seth jones, thank you very much. we'll be watching this story. >> thanks martha. about one # minutes, before "happening now" happens. jenna: the big headline, is the president -- the big headline is the president in favor of gay marriage, but what happens next? what it means for the 2012 election and how it may potentially affect the elections for the house and senate. >> also new rules proposed for your local school and neighborhood about how to keep our children healthy, from p.e. classes to restaurants, will it actually help our nation's obeseity epsemmic -- epidemic or has the nanny state gone wild? bill: we'll see you then, thank you jenna. >>> some republicans making the case for a new missile defense system to be built a lot closer to home. maybe even your home. we'll tell where you and who's against that n. a moment. martha: plus, a little girl with a lot of determination, how she did not let a horrific incident in her childhood stop her from achieving her goals. >> obviously, with her, she has this dramatic story, but honestly, everyone has a dramatic sto

seth jones is a senior political scientist for rand corporation also a former senior adviser for u.s. special operations command in afghanistan. a new book called "hunting in the shadows." it's nice to have you with us. thanks for being here. president paints a fairly rosy picture in that speech last night of afghanistan. the reality, of course, is much less rosy and much more complicated. what did he miss? what nuances did he miss in that speech? >> well, it's important to recognize there is an active insurgency that continues. and we saw that earlier today with at least seven people killed in a car bombing in kabul. we also have several neighbors including pakistan and iran that are providing consistent support to insurgent groups. so there's a lot that has to come between today and peace in afghanistan. >> so when the president says this about the tide turning, i'm curious to know your thoughts. let's play that. >> over the last three years, the tide has turned. we broke the taliban's momentum, we built strong afghan security forces, we devastated al qaeda's leadership taking out o

seth jones is here, former advisor to the special operations commander in afghanistan. he is also the author of, the hunting in the shadows, pursuit of al qaeda since 9/11. great to have you here especially today. >> great to be on, jamie. jamie: what is the report on al qaeda? we know they're pretty much out of afghanistan. i wonlter how many are in pakistan. but most importantly, how many are here? >> well there appear to be few actual plotters in the united states. the biggest concern is individuals coming from yemen and potentially from somalia into the united states and recruiting in cities like phoenix and minneapolis. jamie: for u.s. passport-carrying american citizens to go for training to come back, similar to what we're seeing in this trial, this bombing trial in new york city right now? >> yeah, that's exactly what we're concerned. or, the additional component is individuals who have visa waiver access to the united states because they're say british citizens, radicalized and can come in here without a visa. jamie: is al qaeda looking to the taliban to recrui

seth jones joins us about the death of osama bin laden one year later.iddle class in mesh. what it means for the race for the white house. see you soon. bill: northern cleveland off this terrorism task force arrested five for plotting to blow up allegedly bridges near cleveland, ohio. here now the f.b.i. from this hour. >> despite the defendant's worst intentions and aims, that during the entire course of yesterday's operation the public was never in any danger. the defendants never possessed at any time any real explosive material, and their arrest warrants were signed before they got in the car to head to the bridge. bill: that is the word from the f.b.i. again you heard the public never in danger. this was a bridge we've located south of cleveland, about ten to 12 miles. it stretches over a river down below as you see. it has a pretty descent span. had this plot been carried out, officials are telling us it would have made a heck of a headline. you can channeling what it would have done. three anarchists among the five. five in total. we do not know i

this weekend on book-tv,seth jones documents the war against al qaeda. he is interviewed by an intelligence reporter tonight at 10:00 eastern. also this weekend, your questions and comments for tom brokaw sunday live at noon eastern. book-tv is every weekend on c-span 2. >> here is the flatiron building going up in 1923. stop and think what is the technology. in the 1890's when they were introduced, they were explained as a railroad bridge on its end. most people were afraid and you might think role loving it. we love in ovation. this thing looked little scary. the poor guy who had this building was not too happy. he could not rented out or sell it and nobody wants to be in this building because they thought would topple over. >> this weekend from cooper union, lectures in history with an architectural historian on new york city. later today as 6:00 and 10:00 eastern, part of american history tv this weekend on cspan 3. >> "washington journal" continues -- guest: professor joutz joins us to talk about the april job numbers. the headline in "the wall stre

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seth jones from the rand corporation is working on the other one.another biography at this time and lots of great books that come out every year by serious journalists/historians and the book on steve jobs is a perfect example on that. and international best-selling novel with good reason because of all we could learn from it. >> host: what are you currently reading? >> guest: i read an eclectic we. i read a wonderful book by a british -- about his father and world war ii. i am reading about the 48 campaign which if you think this is wild that was really wild. harry truman and strom thurmond and tom dewey. first election after the war. and terry anderson and a book about george bush and how he decided to go to war. my wife finished catherine the great which was given to me and she picked off. i have to go back and get involved in that. i read a lot of magazine stuff. a lot of essays. i opened up some correspondence with donald hall as a result of what he wrote in the new yorker about growing old and it spoke to me in a way. we have a little exchange

audrey cronin and seth jones. their studies. >> i want to call on colonel michael lewis, who is well known that the marine corps university. >> i am wearing urban camouflage for a reason. i wrote a lot of that. paper issued that could not think the al qaeda brand is popular, but i do not think it is valuable i think it is also interesting and important to separate al qaeda central from the al qaeda affiliates. maybe i will use the word franchise, because in a way, they're carrying a product for cause of the forward from central. the product they're bringing forward i think is essentially to the part. it is a world view. by a world view, i am talking in the context of narrative sort -- narrative freight -- framing. it is we would make sense of the phenomenon we see and experience in the world. there are expectations that al qaeda has helped craft or take on and put together to help explain the actions of different actors in the world. that is the narrative that they propagate out to their affiliates or to anyone in

crux of this weekend on "after words," seth jones is interviewed by kimberly kosher saturday night at 10:00 eastern. also your questions and comments for tom brokaw in depth. >> the executive commission on china looks at his story and hears testimony from human rights groups on his legal advocacy work in china and the human abuse in the country. this is about two hours. >> the commission will come to order. good afternoon. the escape of chinese advocate was nothing short of a miraculously -- it has taken the world, not to mention chinese officials by complete surprise. it was a great relief that i and millions around the world learned his escape, reaching safety at the american embassy at the -- in beijing it. having been handed over to chinese officials by american diplomat said today, chen, his wife, and the rest of his family and friends appear to be in significant danger. notwithstanding potentially empty safety assurances from the hasese side, checn expressed desire to gain asylum for himself and his family. questions arise whether or not he was pressured to leave the u.s. compou

this weekend on "book tv," seth jones documents the war against al qaeda since nine/11 in "hunting in the shadows." also this weekend, your questions and comments for tom brokaw him a "in-depth," sunday at 9:00 a.m., 10:00 a.m. eastern. host: our final hour is called "america by the numbers," looking at the statistics the government keeps about our country. today we will focus on the prison population. let me introduce you to two guests. james lynch is in our studio, the direction of the bureau of justice statistics, a presidentially nominated position. and of course it resides in the us department of justice. thank you for being here. joining us from new york is michael jacobson, the executive director of the vera institute of justice. he was the former new york city corrections commissioner. explain to our audience what the vera institute does. it is a nonpartisan research organization. we run demonstration projects in new york city and run a host of technical assistance in states struggling with criminal justice reform. host: we will be looking at the numbers the government tracks

rafael soriano going to get seth smith to end it. 2-0ke yanes complete the sweep of the a's in oakland. >> pitched great. jonesits a home run off him on a first pitch. really, that's all they got. really not even too many great swings after that until teixeira hits the ball in the gap. pitched the way we've seen him pitch all year. we're beyond pressing at this point. we've got to try to relax and try not -- we're trying too hard. got to try a little easier. >>> indy 500. last year's winner dan wheldon passed away last october, honored prior to the race. his car making a slow lap around the track. this is strange. mike conway stopped in pit row, actually runs into several members of his own pit crew. they would be okay. final lap, dario franchitti in the lead, loses control, smashing into the wall. saito gets the worst of that. franchitti hangs on for the win. ashley judd loves it. franchitti gets his third indy 500 victory. >>> that will just about do it from the comcast sports net news room. giants back tomorrow, a's on the road in minnesota, and happy memorial day. >>> still ahead at 11:00, facebook and sma

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jones. jared parker has impressed in his short oakland career. he kept the scoring close. austin jackson came home and the tigers had the lead. sethead on. the a's second hit and it was 1- 1. parker got in trouble in the sixth and gave way to grant balfore walked jackson with the bases loaded. that was the ball game, fans clip pentington in the sixth. verlander goes 7 innings allowing just two hits for his fourth straight win. the split of their four games in oakland. that's a tough set of circumstances to overcome. >> you go through of course the season, you have some games like this. you just have the guys that you run out there and start. you have to have the confidence in that they can finish the game. and you know we just came up short against three very good pitchers today. >> down a few guys today but that's what our team is about. picking each other up. so i thought we did a good job. pitching kept us in the game the whole game and kind -- but just couldn't get the big hit when we needed to. >> pettitte back on the mound after retiring in 2010. pettitte had not allowed a hit until a runner in the fourth. it's a couple of r