joining me now is democratic congressman seth moulton.ts the sixth addition of massachusetts. he is a veteran of the u.s. marines who served four tours in iraq, and he is also a member of the house of services committee. congressman, thank you for being here. i want to talk about what we were just discussing in this last part, and that is the hamas israel war. for months, israel's military as been pushing gazan south to rafah, further and further south. telling people that that was where it was safe to be. and now, those same civilians are being made to evacuate rafah almost with nowhere to go. as israel plans a ground assault, do you have any confidence that this evacuation can be done humanely, or is it going to result in a bloodshed? is it going to be the humanitarian crisis that everyone else seems to be knowing that is coming? >> well, israel is clearly trying to do things to prevent a further humanitarian crisis. but the sad reality is, based on the experience thus far in the war, i think i can say with confidence that's not going t

joining us to discuss all of this, seth moulton, he sits on the house select committee on china. i appreciate your time this morning. for people watching this and hearing kind of the language that is very jarring, when you look at what's happening here, can you explain to them what they should be most concerned about? what are people seeing that's raising these alarms? >> look, we've seen evidence of this work by china in our intelligence briefings for a long time. for a lot of americans, it's hard to understand how this can really hit home, all of these chinese actions could literally result in you losing your water, you know, having your electricity suddenly shut off. china is positioning itself to have the power to do this on our basic infrastructure, and it's one of the ways that the threat from china can really come home to every day americans. >> do we have a sense, and this was touched on somewhat yesterday, but when they would utilize this power, if they have it, if they have infiltrated to the degree people would be concerned about, what would cause them to flip the swit

the united states with me now is democratic congressman from the commonwealth of massachusetts, seth moulton, congressman. thanks so much for being with us. you just got back from taiwan, taiwan and tokyo. now, that might sound like a disconnect from ukraine. but in fact it's not it was amazing. the officials in both taiwan and two and japan were supreme. li focused on whether or not we would deliver aid to ukraine because of the message that that sends to sieging paying in china's someone a dictator who has said that he wants to invade taiwan. and i think we know that that literally could start world war three. there's no question that us troops would likely die in that scenario. >> what's going to shake the status quo? the status quo in the house of representatives is no wade, no new way to ukraine. i know speaker mike johnson's going to the white house tomorrow, but what changes the status? >> but look, this is all about the speaker because if he brought this bill to a vote, like he sort of basic premise of democracy christie, right? you get the vote on things. >> it would >> pass, it wou

meanwhile, congressman seth moulton says he and turner were briefed aboutrillionussia's plans two years ago. >> he decided to take highly sensitive compart mented intelligence. >> that means that even if you have a very, you know, like a top secret clearance or something, you only have access to the intelligence if you have a need to know and he shared it with every member of congress, and indeed it only took a few hours for the details of this weapon system to come out. >> russia's supposed intention was not to drop the weapon onto the earth, but possibly use it against satellites. an assessment last year by u.s. intelligence found russia was in pursuit of an array of non destructive and destructive counter space weapons, including jamming and cyberspace capabilities to try to target u.s. and allied satellites. russian president putin has taken issue with one specific group of satellites, spacex's starlink system, which has been used by ukraine to carry out attacks on russian troops. >> and liftoff. >> just yesterday, spacex launched a classified mission for the u.s. space force, sendi

seth moulton. what is the place for smaller defense companies? i imagine technology as you see it. >> the innovation is happening at smaller right now. that is reality. it's not that the primes are innovating to some degree, but the fastest pace of innovation is happening with the smallest companies and we got to bring them into the mix. th i love the idea of having australian companies be a part of that. fundamentally contributing to pushing the pentagon. there are uiso many things that we do well. not just well but the best in b the world. moving quickly with acquisitions and adopting new technologies is not one of them. the more pressure that we have not just from smaller companies but from smaller companies amongst our allies, the better. we need to pick up the pace. >> the other question, you guys shut down any idea of, despite what great name it would be. if there is not expense innovations, could there be an expansion of capabilities that you could add to the partnership? i believe that is an open question for whoever would like to take it

sitting next to them is representative seth moulton from -- sorry, excuse me, i will go one further. sitting next to him is matt pottinger, the former u.s. deputy national security advisor. sitting next to him is ambassador kevin rudd, and sitting next to him is representative whitman from the commonwealth of virginia. i would encourage everyone to please submit your questions, because will look forward to asking some of them to our panelists very shortly. i would like to begin by pulling up some of those survey results from the reagan national defense forum survey, because i think they are quite illuminating about how the american public is thinking about aukus. there are two questions that came up. how much if anything have you heard about aukus, and 73% said they were not aware, but at the same time when they asked the participants if they wanted to see an agreement in which the u.s., u.k., and australia were to reach an agreement to work on countering threats from china, 50% said they supported it. so i would like to start with our u.s. policy maker, then i will ask ambassador ru

congressman seth moulton says he and turner were briefed on the plan two years ago, so he decided tohighly sensitive compartmented intelligence. >> that means that even if you have a very you know, like a top secret clearance or something, you only have access to the intelligence if you have a need to know. and he shared it with every member of congress, and indeed, it only took a few hours for the details of this weapon system to come out. >> putting a nuclear weapon into space, it would violate multiple international agreements. russia has responded to this intelligence saying, this is just a ploy to get more aid to ukraine. so of course we'll keep you updated on this. julian. >> thank you. gloria a new legal battle over the effect of social media on kids. new york city is suing tiktok, instagram, facebook, snapchat and youtube, claiming they're designed to get young people addicted. the city demands those companies restructure their apps and help cover the cost of mental health treatments. >> no one is talking about taking snatching away devices or snatching away platforms. we're

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sitting next to him is representative seth moulton -- excuse me, i will go one further, sitting next to him is not pottinger, the former u.s. principal deputy national security adviser. sitting next to him is ambassador kevin, an australian ambassador to the united states. and sitting next to him is representative whitman om the state of the commonwealth of virginia. >> that's it, thank you. >> i want to encourage everyone to please some of your questions, because we look forward to asking some of them shortly. i would like to begin by pulling up some of the survey results from the reagan national defense forum survey, because i think they're trying to illuminate about how the american public is thinking about office. there were two questions that came up. the first one asked how much, if anything, have you heard about rockets? 73% said they were not aware. but at the same time, when they asked the participants if they wanted to see an agreement in which the u.s., uk, and australia were to reach an agreement to reach counter threats from china, 53% said they supported it. follow-up.

the democratic congressman seth moulton joins me now and i appreciate your time, congressman. so what can you tell us about this threat? what you've learned about it >> well, look, i think the speaker is right. this is a serious issue, but it's something that we're working hard to address and defense intelligence to defense officials, some of whom i spoke with again today are working on how how to address this to make sure we keep americans safe. it's important to understand that what the chairman of the house intelligence committee has done here, mike turner, is fundamentally leak information. he's he's he is an intelligence leaker because what he did is he decided to take highly sensitive compartmented intelligence that that means that even if you have a very like a top-secret clearance or something you only have access to the intelligence if you have a need to know and he shared it with every member of congress, people like marjorie taylor greene, who of course, we all know cannot be trusted to keep the secret. and indeed it only took a few hours for the details of this wea

congress man seth moulton says he and turner were briefed on the plan two years ago. >> he decided toe highly sensitive compartmented intelligence. that means that even if you have a very you know, like a top secret clearance or something, you only have access to the intelligence if you have a need to know. and he shared it with every member of congress, and indeed, it only took a few hours for the details of this weapon system to come out. >> putting a nuclear weapon into space would violate multiple international agreements. russia has responded to this intelligence saying this is just a ploy to get more aid to ukraine. julian. >> thank you. gloria meanwhile, russian scientists are reportedly one step closer to creating vaccines for cancer, according to reuters. russian president vladimir putin says they could soon be available to cancer patients. he did not say exactly which cancers the vaccines would target or how. putin said in televised comments that the country is close to the creation of so-called cancer vaccines for a new generation. >> a refurbished san francisco cable car i

about this publicly and showed it to those members of congress and then democratic congressman seth moulton, characterized turner was actions this way here he was on cnn just last night >> it's important to understand that what the chairman of the house intelligence committee has done here, mike turner, is fundamentally leak information. he's he's he is an intelligence leaker because what he did is he decided to take highly sensitive compartmented intelligence. that means that even if you have a very like a top-secret clearance or something, you only have access to the intelligence if you have a need to know and he shared it with every member of congress that is quite an accusation is that how you see it >> i see something at least a closer to that kind of vein of thought than the fact that there's a grave danger emerging out of this new, a bit of intelligence i think frankly mike turner has been actually quite good on attack i think to nudge support forward on ukraine. and that seems to be the tactic that he chose to employ. here the merits of the threat. i don't weren't this kind of actio