same-sex marriage is going to become legal in california? >> i think it will. i think that will happen. it will spread slowly. it won't be done by one stroke of the pen by the supreme court. >> talk about the possible outcomes, because you taught me there are six possible outcomes. why don't you explain that. >> one, of course, is simply to reverse the 9th circuit and say there is no right to same-sex marriage. another one wul be what we just talked about which is the california-only solution to say that there may not be a fundamental right but california's process violated equal protection. other possibilities the court could say that the propose points of prop 8 have no standing, they have no right to be in the federal courts. the case could be dismissed. the supreme court could do a kind of odd procedural thing which they call dismissing as improve dentally granted and say we decided to hear this case but n now that we've looked at it it's a bad decision and we'll take away our decision to hear it and not listen to it. and there are other

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favor of couples and same-sex marriages. that's really the predominant number of protesters here today, carol. >> all right, brian todd, an exciting day. we expect that decision to come in just about an hour in the 10:00 eastern hour of "newsroom." special coverage and wolf blitzer will be here and brian todd, i'm sure you'll be back. just an amazing sight at the u.s. supreme court in washington, d.c. >>> the star witness in the zimmerman murder trial may take the stand at any time now. i'm talking about trayvon martin's girlfriend, the young woman talking with martin on his cell phone just before he was killed. as you can see, court proceedings have gotten under way and we understand the judge has also riluled on emotion to allow 911 calls to be admitted on evidence. george howell is in florida. george, fell us more. >> carol, good morning. right now you see jane, she is on the stand and we're still waiting it learn her relevance to the case as a far as being a prosecution witness. we also now know that juror b-72 was relea

as two same-sex couples in this case celebrated their victory. one couple was reason to celebrate for them. the supreme court also struck down the dpeens of marriage act or doma paving the way for federal recognition of smerjs. >> we're learning a federal appeals court will wait 25 days before allowing same-sex marriages to resume in california meant to give backers of prop 8 time to ask the supreme court to rehear the case f they do ask for a rehearing the court can continue to ban same-sex marriages longer. the plaintiffs say it's a victory for children of gay and lesbian couple as cross california. >> no platter where you live, what family you're in, you're equal. you're as good as your friend's parents and as your friends. >> supporters say they are disappointed. >> we remain committed to the continued enforcement of prop 8 until there is a state wide order saying other case. >> the supreme court ruled those supporters don't have standing to support in court but the court side stepped the question whether it violates the constitution. >> imme

huge victory for sex-sex marriage supporters. what about doma did the justices consider unconstitutional in that 5-4 decision. >> they said the act was unconstitutional because it deprived same-sex couples under equal protection and throughout history defining and regulating marriage has always been the province of the states and justice anthony kennedy wrote this opinion. he said doma rejected that tradition an that's not acceptable either. >> justice kennedy being the key vote. jeffrey you've been watching the supreme court. what do supporters have to do now? where do they go from here? >> there's enormous practical and symbolic victories in both of these cases. there are all these federal benefits whether it's filing joint returns, social security benefits. those benefits are available to gay people who are married. if you look at the language of justice kennedy's opinion. it really does suggest that there is a constitutional right to be married if you are a gay person. there's certain to be new test cases in the 38 states tha

now it will be the same for same sex couples as well in those states that have same-sex marriage. >> right. >> this decision -- neither of the decision is going to say anything directly about whether other states that don't have same-sex marriage, other 38 states, whether they have to now allow same-sex marriage. as a legal matter, those -- these opinions will say nothing about that. as a political matter, as a boost, as a leg up, the decisions will be a huge boost to the people who are looking for same-sex marriage nationwide. >> right. let me go back to proposition 8 in california. defenders of that law have argued that the state has legitimate reason for treating same-sex couples differently because only couples consisting of a man and woman can produce children. quote this indisputable difference between same-sex and opposite-sex relationships demonstrates that proposition 8 is constitutional. oversimplification but it's a the core of it. >> reporter: it's one of the arguments used to defend prop 8 in california. it was rejected by the federal judge there who had a long trial. th

two major victories for supporters of same sex marriage.th the latest. >> the element is gone. this is a major brolly been written opinion which strikes down below on the ground that it is discrimination against gay people. >> reporter: >> justice will be done >> reporter: marriage go from here? >> he did windsor was the plaintiff in the dome a case she had to pay additional state tax following her partner's death. >> we one for everything we hold in one of four. while! wow! >> gary: when all americans are treated >> reporter: 1 all american st = no matter who we are we are considered a more free. >> reporter: one of the things that come out next is to button at the court and that is so divided. talking about both the dole month and prop 8. we will see a lot of legislative service stake as the debate goes on. now the u.s. has to take action and that president obama issued a review of federal statues of try to figure out how those states will all be able to apply and same-sex marriage where it is legal. we are seeing the debate continue it.

america is very sex judgmental, remains sex judgment and it's been that way all throughout its history. the judgments made about sexual and gender variation in the 20th century were that any kind of sexual and gender variation outside of procreative marriage between one man and one woman was evil, to be demonized, and was literally illegal for the entire 19th century and for most of the 20th century. so the malignancy of sexual variation, which a change in the 20th century, but it changed in a way that we can do they appreciate but not admire but it changed away from demonizing intercourse outside of marriage implicit in the demonizing homosexual intercourse outside of marriage, away from heterosexual extramarital activity toward homosexual activity, by definition of course, also outside of marriage by definition of course, also not procreative in its own right. so from sexual minorities generally being outlawed it became only homosexual minorities who are outlaws in the last third of the 20th century. that is much of a story that the book tells the tells the story of how these outlaws

is this, could this be the end of the same-sex marriage fight here in california? what you need to do right now is vote by texting or calling 408-300-9222 or you can also tweet us at nbcbayarea.com. text 1 for yes and text 2 for no. let us know what you're thinking. >>> prop 8 affects same-sex couples here in california, the court's ruling on the defense of marriage act has a more widespread affect, according to dean johnson. according to the justices, doma is unconstitutional, that means same-sex marriages honored by a state will also be honored by the federal government. so now, same-sex couples who are legally married will receive equal treatment under federal law in regard to things like income taxes and social security benefits. the justices struck down doma by a 5-4 vote. in his opinion, justice anthony kennedy writes, "the federal statute is invalid for no legitimate purpose overcomes the purpose and effect to dispar raj and injure those whom the state, by its marriage laws, sought to protect in personhood and dignity." ruth bader ginsberg, stephen breyer, s

and return to same-sex marriage. but as pete pointed out before, that may take a few weeks or months for it to happen 3 >> mike tiabbi and anne thompson, thank you, both. >>> now we turn to sanford, florida. a day of riveting testimony in the trial of george zimmerman. among the witnesses taking the stand, the woman who was on the phone with trayvon martin during the deadly confrontation describing publicly and for the first time what she heard. we get the latest from nbc's ron mott. >> reporter: today, prosecutors called perhaps their most important witness. number eight. >> he told me the man started following him. >> reporter: 19-year-old rachel jeantel said she was on the phone with her friend trayvon martin when he told her a man he described as creepy was following him. >> you told him to run and he said no. >> he said no, because he was right by his father's house. >> reporter: she told of hearing part of the confrontation that ended his life. >> and then he said why are you following me for. and then i hard a

she and her late wife in 2004 were the same, same-sex marriage couple. they basked in their moments in the city hall rotunda. >> our ken pritchard reports on those who careered and blasted today's supreme court ruling >> reporter: there was no capital really, just a handful of prop 8 backers showing their displeasure with today's ruling. >> you are seeing tyranny, not democracy. >> save california.com president randy thompson has long been a supporter is. his organization filed a brief which he calls annil jts annail lis annil legit mitt body. >> it's in fact a very clear victory for justice itself. >> members of the lgbt legislative caucus pray same-sex marriage as the law of the land in california. >> senator mark leno played a historic roll, offering the first same-sex marriage bill to pass the house to be vetod by governor scwhwartzeneger. >> he clearly was on the wrong side of the street. >> senator leno says any attempt to do so will fail. >> it is basically done. >> in sacramento, ktvu channel 2 news. >> response from the religious leaders was mix

the justices ruled on two major cases involving same-sex marriage. in one they invalidated the defense of marriage act, the 1996 law that denied federal benefits to married same-sex couples. the court considered a case involving proposition 8, a state ban on gay marriage. the court declined to rule on the substance of that case but the decision likely allows same-sex marriage to resume in california. the rulings are a significant victory for supporters of gay rights. joining me from washington, jeffrey toobin. he will be with us in just a moment. he is the legal analyst for cnn and "new yorker." also with us adam liptak. he is the supreme court correspondent for the "new york times." he is also the author of "to have and uphold." welcome, adam. >> hey, good to be here, charlie. >> rose: in a broader sense, how historic is this day for supreme court rulings? >> the court didn't say there's a constitutional right to same-sex marriage in all 50 states but it sure is a big step in that direction. it basically ensures that the 13th state, california, the

way for people to get married in colorado california, the other allows for federal benefits to same- sex couples. the justices struck down a key part of the defense of marge act, or doma. the ruling louse couples to receive federal aid. the second decision was ab appeal on proposition 8. the are 546 split means same-sex marriage could marry state- wide. >> we can say to all 4 of our boys, your family is just as good as everybody else's family. we love you as much as anybody else's parents loves their kids, and we going to be equal. >> today, the united states supreme court in two important decisions brings us that much closer to true equality. >> the rainbow flag that flies proudly here in san francisco's castro district, there's a new flag they are flying tonight, here it is, the equal flag. that's how people feel now nape are equal to everybody else in california. this didn't come without some controversy, as you nope but governor jerry brown has stepped right in as soon as the decision was made today by the high court and put all the counties in california on notice that he wanted the

if someone is moving from a same-sex state to a state that does not recognize same-sex marriage.ize domestic partnership but if the state doesn't have any of those, it will be another issue. adoption will be another major issue. florida will not allow same-sex marriage couples to adopt take a same-sex couple from california to new york and they go to florida and they said they would like to adopt a child here. not so clear if they're going to be able to do that. all those things will have to be worked out. a lot of ramifications as we move forward. it will be a case and judges will have to rule on the implications of these decisions. >>mark: thank you professor. >>mark: big day as doma declared unconstitutional. >>darya: we will continue with our live coverage in just a minute. crystal geyser is always bottled at the mountain source. crystal geyser. crystal geyser. crystal geyser. then we deliver it directly to you. gamow >> that was a mayor ed lee. we also heard from gavin newsom. they weren't thinking phyllis. she had been with her partner for 50 years. gavin newsom married the

in 1972, the court addressed the issue of same-sex marriage in baker versus nelson and said, same-sexmarriage, there is no such thing new york legal issue for us to address and they dismissed the appeal. i think the fact that we are really considering this case and taking it seriously tells us how far the court has come in the ensuing years. >> also decided today doma, defines marriage ace union between a man and a woman and prevents legally gay and married couples from receiving benefits offered to straight couples. you think the high court will strike this down as well? >> i think it will. marriage is defined by state law, always has been that way, no rational basis for changing that. doma really tells us a lot about how important marriage is. the plaintiff in doma a widow hit with $363,000 in estate taxes. had the federal law at the time recognized her marriage to her partner, the estate taxes would have been zero. >> we are minutes away from finding out the answer here. >>> 6:33, as soon as the prop 8 ruling comes down, nbc news will bring you a live special report. also live cove

the second same-sex marriage case focused on california's proposition 8, which banned same-sex marriage in 2008 after the state supreme court had legalized it. supporters of same-sex marriage argued proposition 8's ban was unconstitutional, and federal courts in california agreed. supporters of the ban went to the supreme court, raising monumental constitutional issues that went to the heart of state laws banning same-sex marriage. but today, the justices declined to decide those constitutional issues. instead, the court said it lacked the jurisdiction to decide the case, a technical ruling that sent the issue back to california. it means the lower federal court ruling striking down proposition 8 as unconstitutional will remain in place. now, as the result, in the near future, same-sex marriage in california could resume. but this decision, unlike that first landmark ruling, will have no impact nationwide, scott, because the justices did not decide those bigger issues. >> pelley: and jan, president obama on a trip to africa said today, "when all americans are treated as equal, we are al

our coverage of same-sex marriage continues on nightly news. see you at 6:00. >>> on our broadcast tonight, making history at the supreme court. as the justices lay down the law, two big cases on same-sex marriage. tonight the decisions and the impact across the country. >>> the final moments. chilling testimony from the woman on the phone with trayvon martin the night he died, talking about what she heard during that deadly confrontation. >>> taking a stand. one woman's epic all-night filibuster, her desperate effort to run out the clock when suddenly chaos erupts during a showdown over abortion in texas. >>> in her defense. paula deen's emotional appearance this morning on "today" followed by news tonight of another loss to her one-time food empire. "nightly news" begins now.

the fight over same-sex marriage dates back to 2004. that's when then-mayor gavin newsom defied state law by issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples. then on march 11th, the state supreme court ordered san francisco to stop the ceremonies. but on may 15th, 2008, the state supreme court struck down the state's existing law, banning same-sex marriage. it was on that day that newsom gave his now-famous quote. >> it's unnestable. this door's wide open now. it's gonna happen whether you like it or not. this is the future and it's now. >> within six months of the speech, proposition 8 was on the ba bal -- ballot and now a new ruling from the highest court in the nation. tara moriarty is live at san francisco city hall with reaction from the man many helped focus -- focus attention on this issue. good afternoon, tara moriarty. >> reporter: good afternoon, we have seen a lot of couples go into the courthouse to get married and in less than a month, it will be gay couples tying the knot. it's called a spine-tingling moment. >> my reaction

three women, oral sex is, that is it? >> that is it. that is it. >> admit. >> oral sex. oral sex. oral sex. >> no -- >> you my fiancee. >> maury: chris, chris, how would you describe your relationship with molly? >> that is my sister, man, i love her like a sister. >> thank you, thank you, nothing -- nothing more, and nothing -- nothing else. >> maury: so chris, what about all of those garments in your trunk? >> well, my drawers is mine, they ain't from another female. >> maury: kendra, we gave chris a lie detecter test, but last night chris said he wanted to reveal to you two secrets. go ahead chris. >> you remember i told you i went out on new year's eve with my sisters, that was a lie. the second is secret is it was two other women after her. so -- >> you a dog. you're a dog. i don't understand, why? why? why? >> i'm sorry. i'm sorry. >> you can do better. >> maury: so chris, more than oral sex is, then, right? >> yes, then times, yes. >> you can do better, you deserve better than that. >> maury: we have the lie detector test, okay? you're going to hear everything right now. ch

opponents of same sex marriage began collecting signatures for a measure to ban same sex marriages.november of 2009, prop 8 passed with a 52 percent federal judge declared in unconstitutional. in 2012, the ninth circuit appeals court agreed. and last december, the u=s supreme court agreed to take the case. catherine heenan, kron 4 news all day people have gone >> reporter: what has been trending on the web it slate will show a spirit online to react to the sumpreme court's ruling. kron 4's tech reporter gabe slate shows us what's trending on the web. in san francisco's castro more reaction to today's rulings after the break. >> reporter: she is celebrating as she learned the news. this image of downtown philadelphia with l.b.g.t. t committing to over with a giant rainbow flag. many people tweet get the image or change the facebook profile. this is of the gateman course on the steps of the supreme court. and lastly google mislead little shot out telling people and family members about that and to check out. if you type gate are gay marriage into the google barn search for a rainbow w

the second same-sex marriage case focused on california's proposition 8, which banned same-sex marriage in 2008 after the same supreme court had legalized it. supporters of same-sex marriage argued proposition 8 ban was unconstitutional and federal courts in california agreed. instead the court said it lacked the jurisdiction to defy the case, a technical ruling that sent the issue back to california. it means the lower federal court ruling striking down proposition 8 will remain in place. as for results, in the near future, same-sex marriages in california could resume. this decision unlike that first landmark rule willing have no impact nationwide because the court did not decide the bigger issues. jan crawford, cbs news, the supreme court. >>> well, yesterday's court decisions triggered celebration among same-sex marriage supporters from new york to california. tara mergener is in washington with more. tara, good morning. >> good morning to you, anne-marie. well, this is no question, this is a major milestone for supporters of same-sex marriage, but the fight is hardly over with cons

>> victory for same-sex marriage in california. the supreme court cleared the way today for same-sex marriages to resume. >> a historic day for california. the justices voted to let stand 2010 ruling overturning proposition 8 the voter approved ban on gay marriage. >> we have abc7 news reporter cornell bernard in san francisco at city hall. >> a lot of celebrating in city hall. a lot of horns going off. people are absorbing the news that proposition 8 has been declared invalid, a long battle from marriage equality it appears is now over. >> mayor lee greet add cheering hall at city hall where hundreds packed the rotunda to celebrate the defeat of proposition 8. after the high court ruled backers of the same-sex marriage ban had no right to appeal. >> we had a great victory today at the supreme court. we will again have marriage equality in california and discriminatory proposition 8 is struck. >> the city attorney started the battle after former mayor and now lt. governor started issuing marriage licenses nine years ago. he calls i

. >> reporter: same-sex marriage is leaving in 12 states and wards. california would be the 13th state. reporting live from washington, d.c. i'm cheryl hurd, nbc bay area news. >>> from the steps of the supreme court, cheryl hurd has been reported live for us. >>> the road to the supreme court started in 2004 when then mayor of san francisco gavin kn newsom ordered the marriages to begin in san francisco. now he is a central figure in this debate. monte frances has been at city hall all day. >> reporter: there was a sense of jubilation here when the rulings were announced. and that is no surprise since this is where the fight over gay marriage in california began almost a decade ago. applause and emotion erupted as the crowd of hundreds learned that the supreme court had struck down the defense of marriage act or doma. that was followed by several minutes of anticipation before the prop 8 ruling was announced clearing the way for seam sex marriages to resume in california. minutes later walking arm with ed lee and gavin newsom, phyllis joined the cele

lots of same-sex couples around state are hopeful that prop 8, the voter imposed ban on same-sex marriagel be struck down. the high court could also uphold prop 8 or invalidate it, by referring to a lower court ruling which declared it unconstitutional. many couples are optimistic that things will go their way. >> we are anxious. optimistic. we have been together six years and now we have a chance of when we want to get married and where we want to get married and not having to rush. it is an incredible opportunity. the city attorney believes if prop 8 is struck down weddings could begin in 25 days. anticipation, of course, is building, and, in fact, the doors have opened early at city hall and we were told at 7:00 a.m. but they have opened at 6:30 so many people can gather to wait for word. there is intense media attention on the story, that would be an understatement. there is international media here from all over the world and your best coverage will be right here on abc7 news. when the ruling comes down you will be the first to know. >> we have coverage from city hall to the castro d

legalize same-sex marriage. this assembly speaker is the first elected openly gay speaker to him the ruling is very personal. >> this is the first time in my life that i felt the law fully recognized me as being equal. >> the eight member caucus embraced as they shared news with each other. assemblyman and assembly woman atkins are the first openly gay married state lawmakers. their ceremonies held during that brief period when smaerjz were legal. -- same-sex marriages were legal. >> we will not lie about who we are in state house or family house. and i think those are the thing wez take from today. >> some groups are upset. >> children are the victims. the next again vacation going to be very confused about marriage, sex, relationships, and will not hear about any of the negative consequences governoring against natural design of marriage and maem. >> -- family. >> despite the ruling churches in california do not have to perform same-sex marriages. the legislature passed a law making sure religious freedom stay

both who are supporters of same-sex marriage. and we expect that they will interpret a ruling that the proponents of proposition 8 lack standing to bring the appeal. that that ruling will be interpreted as restoring same-sex marriage rights to california. that is what kind of the smart legal thinking up until now has been. there may be, you know -- there may be some, as i said, some litigation around the margins about it. but i would be very surprised if same-sex couples aren't allowed to be married in california very soon, within a matter of days, if not months. now, the other question on doma is, how quickly will the obama administration put this law into effect? i mean, there's going to have to be some regulations and a look at various statutes and how doma interconnects with various statutes. marriage is defined differently for different purposes in different statutes. what it means is that the obama administration will, i think, very quickly start to put into effect rules that allow same-sex married couples, if you're in any

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same-sex marriage is legal once again.the castro district where people still are milling about after the celebration. >>> delta airlines is being sued for involuntarily bumping paefrmgs from flights. normally, they -- passengers from flights. normally, passengers are asked. but the federal government says delta didn't ask! the government is seeking $750,000 after getting more than 300 complaints from passengers who say delta did not tell them about their rights. >>> trayvon martin told the last person he ever spoke to a creepy man was following him. that testimony came today from one of the most important witnesses in the trial of the neighborhood watchman accused of killing the unarmed teen. >> reporter: rachel said she spoke with trayvon on the phone moments before zimmerman killed him. martin had been buying snacks at a convenience store, and the two friends talked as he returned to the home of his father's fiance. she told the court martin saw a man following him. prosecutors say the voice was george zimmerman, a neigh

it stopped same-sex marriage in the state. the people who put it on the ballot had no right to appeal. for the two california couples who challenged the law that's the answer they wanted now, we'll be marry and we'll be kwal to every other family in california. >> reporter: their interview on msnbc was interrupted by a call from the president on air force one. >> we thank you so much for your support. >> you should be very proud of today and through your courage, you're helping out a whole lot of people everywhere. >> reporte >> i'm pleased that the court didn't constitute a -- >> that was nbc's pete williams reporting. >>> wednesday was a huge day in the george zimmerman trial. perhaps one of the most important witnesses in the case, the defense challenging her testimony on the night that trayvon martin was killed. jay gray has more. >> reporter: on day three of testimony -- prosecutors introduced the witness who may be the corner stone of their case. >> unless george zimmerman himself takes the stand she'll be the most impor

utah, where same sex marriage is most assuredly not legal. the reason you go there next, though, is because here's what's going to happen. some happy couple looks like sean and steven, maybe. some happy couple who's married in new york or married in iowa is going to get transferred to utah for work, and that couple with their kids, pay their taxes, own property together, whose lives are totally interwoven thanks to all the normal boring stuff that interweaves our lives. what happens when they get there, utah unmarries them? not here, it doesn't apply? you're married nationally, but you're not married in the state? how does that work? that does not work. and then this hypothetical couple arriving in utah and realizing this ridiculous situation, they will sue, they'll say, hey, we're not looking for a fight here, this does not make sense. we cannot be legally married and not legally married at the same time. it can't be the federal government and the state we came from say we're legally married but now that we're here it doesn't count, it doesn

the doma decision is an immense victory for the same-sex rights -- same-sex marriage supporters. no doubt about that. that will change the lives of thousands of married people in the 12 states where it's legal. on the proposition 8 case, the court could have said all 50 states have to have same-sex marriage tomorrow. the justices did not say that. they certainly appeared to open the door to same-sex marriages resuming in california, but the other 38 states are not yet affected by this decision, although it certainly does look like the court is moving in the direction of saying that courts -- that everybody has the right to get married. >> jonathan turley, final thoughts on tho decision on dom sweeping, and you get the sense that the justices felt history. with regard to proposition 8, it's more of a victory by default. the only thing living after this opinion is the original order of the district court, which presumably could still be enforced. what is really good news is they make it very difficult for the proponents of proposition 8 to get standing for the next round of litigat

for the religious opponents of same-sex marriage, they very much look to the bible.hey believe god ordained marriage as between a man and a woman, that it -- and procreation is tied up in that, that it symbolizes in the christian community jesus's relationship with the church. so there are very deeply held theological reasons why they hold those positions. and for the religious proponents of same-sex marriage, they say when they look at the bible they see an evolving view of marriage, and they also point to biblical values like justice and say compassion and justice should be at play here. >> did you sense, tim, just a second, did you sense a momentum in the direction of accepting gay marriage within the religious communities? >> well, certainly the advocates feel that their position has been vindicated, but even among religious conservatives and opponents of same-sex marriage, polls show they say even though they don't like it, it's probably inevitable that it is here and it will happen. >> tim, what were you going to say? >> i was going to say, you were talking abo

sex marriage in the state of maryland.n african-le american children -- churches all hopped [no audio] between gays and african- americans. >> all the sudden, it was black person is gay. >> our journey is not complete until our gay brothers and sisters are treated like anyone else under the law. >> he asked, when are you getting married? >> well, we are working on it. >> regardless of what laws they may write, god designed the family. >> who has been the hardest hit in the issue of family? the african-american community. >> we were blasphemous and not to compare the gay movement with the right for civil rights. is gay the new black? >> i believe this election ought to be a referendum on the church, a referendum on black preachers. >> if we do not reach out to these people, who will? opposition. god does not make lesbians. finish.e >> sensuality in african- american community is taboo. we do not discuss it in any form. >> i felt like could not be myself because i would shame you. i ain't with that. >> this is the unfinished

where same-sex marriage is lawful.ederal government of the united states of america is now required to recognize marriages of people of the same sex where they have been made lawful in states that make them lawful. bill: doma is unconstitutional as a deprivation of the 50s the amendment. it only applies in states that recognize gay marriage. how many states is that today? >> reporter: that's about 11 states, bill. it's hard to say how this would affect states like new jersey where same-sex marriage is prohibited but civil unions are permitted. i don't know, i have the opinion in front of me, if the court acresses that for the court is going to visit that issue on another day. bill: stand stand by there. i want to get back to shannon bream. back to the steps of the supreme court. what else do you see there? >> reporter: you remember during the argument there were a couple points that stood out. one point where justice ginsburg who decides for the majority said what you are doing is having couples who can get married in

suddenly lifts the stay order and allows same-sex marriages to resume. that is one of their sons. this, like all weddings months and years to plan in this case fight for legally and over, very quickly. right? the clerk's office will be staying open until 8:00 so these two will be among many to get married tonight but they're the first. i'm joined now by cheryl jennings as we begin abc 7 news at 5:00. >> we learned that the other couple in los angeles other plaintiffs in this case are getting married today. so exciting news. >> just a historic day and a day we can we did not expect. remember, after the ruling regarding the defense of marriages act, doma and prop 8 we expected regarding prop 8 a 25 day waiting period while the court heard arguments for and against another appeal. the ninth circuit decided to lift the zpai allow same-sex marriages to resume immediately in california and this wedding becomes the first. >> we're watching history at this moment. >> look how many people have gathered very quickly. how many people rushed to be a part of this day

supreme court has made same-sex marriage a reality in california. brown said he has ordered county clerks to issue marriage licenses as soon as the 9th circuit confirms the stay is lifted. ed lee was there anxiously awaiting the announcement from the court. >> it's been a long road, many years, but gosh it feels good to have love triumph over ignorance. >> he said today is a historic day for all of us. >> oakland mayor celebrated today's ruling on proposition. >> this is truly a joyful day in the nation and particularly in this city. the city has stood up for progressive ideas and fought for civil rights at every point. >> among them, the city's communication director who appeared with her wife and young son. they were married five years ago. >> we want to show you a live picture from west hollywood. it's the castro of southern california, large gay community in that part of southern california. dozens of people gathered in the streets with the rainbow flags and media also covering the event there. this ruling effects the entire state of california

same-sex marriage?llege students will likely have to pay more for their loans come july first. congress is working on a deal to prevent a 100 percent hike in subsudized student loan interest rates. but a final agreement probably won't come until after lawmakers return from the july fourth recess. if so, the plan is expected to apply retroactively so students aren't hurt by the temporary spike. the house already passed a bill that would prevent the july increase. but, it would link student interest rates to the 10- year treasury note, which means they would vary from year to year. senate democrats want a fixed rate. 7-million college students will likely have to pay more for their loans come july first. congress is working on a deal to prevent a 100 some of their shine. >>mark: we will be right back as the kron4 morning news continues. is going 97 >>mark: welcome back. gay marriage may have been made legal in california again. but same sex couples will have to wait a bit longer to make their unions offic

we have seen support for the same sex marriage now up to about 60 percent. does not look like they will win. >> he has issued the two other primary rulings this is really the third. he has the civil rights issue of our time. >> well, professor nice and thanks so much for coming in. >> thank you. we're keeping the eye on another big story and this could affect the bay area commuters. workers on the verge of a string. ♪ [ music ]♪ >>> we're seeing some coastal drizzle. this is a live look across the golden gait bridge. a lot of areas are seeing the blue skies and we're going to warm up in the next couple of days. how hot are we going to get? we will let you know coming up. >>> oakland a's adam and with the weather warming up we're screaming for ice cream and raising money for a good cause as the news continues. >>> the celebrations continue in san francisco neighborhood. we have a live reabort with reactions from washington dc coming up after the break. ♪ [ music ]♪ ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, this morning, bart's two lat unions voted overwhelminglyo give leaders the g >

sex is okay, money is okay, but sex for money, that is forbidden >> seven women arrested and charged with soliciting prostitution. >> women hide their faces. >> tv reporters treat prostitution like most other crimes. >> we have exclusive pictures as vice cops sent set up a sting. cops posing as johns ealtdz lured five women to the hotel. >> john: even using the yellow pages. think about that. it wasn't difficult for the police to discover the lawbreakers. the yellow pages in my town has 15 pages of so-called escort services. police ignore 90% of it. when they do make busts the implication the police saved the prostitute. >> jail may be the safety place they have ever been. >> john: jail is the safest place? i doubt that. >> more importantly, where sex work is legal there is little danger. here in nevada, for example. brooke says sex work is like any other sales job. >> we are entrepreneurs and independent contractors just like any other business. >> she works at the bunny ranch, one of 28 legal brothels in america. >> john: you are pimp. you are exploiting? >> i have a license to do

. >> reporter: the first same sex marriage ceremony is complete. and now those marriage ceremonies will continue tonight here at city hall. the 9th circuit court of appeals lifted its day on same sex marriage around 3:30 this afternoon. at 4:00, this couple was at the clerk's office getting a marriage license, and at 4:45, kamala harris performed their marriage sar moceremony. quite a crowd gathered to witness the ceremony. chris perry said she was elated. and she wants all same sex couples to fight to get married. >> because really what we wanted so desperately was for our own sons to know that we love them and each other enough to fight to be married, which now we are. and other families in similar circumstances, you should fight to be married too. >> reporter: perry was one of the plaintiffs in the prop 8 case. they went to a marriage ceremony this afternoon. word is spreading. couples are lining up to get their marriage licenses. one couple in line said they saw the news on the television. they were at the gym on the treadmill and came right do

he officiated same-sex wedding. he says a surge is building through the wedding industry in california and throughout the country. >> people have been waiting for a long time. >> reporter: joanna agrees. she's a san jose wedding planner who through her business has organized same-sex wedings since they were briefly legalized in 2008. she expects a much bigger spike this time around. celebrating their 30th anniversary. they cherish the ceremony they had in 1984, but? >> it wasn't legal. we had a holy union and they said it wasn't. >> there will be a lot of celebrating, a lot of thinking about getting married. >> reporter: wedding planners sense that mood. >> we're as excited as they are, it's maybe even a little more special because they fought so hard for it. >> reporter: it isn't just >> the clerk assessor's office is expecting a flood of applications, gender neutral licenses are ready to go. starting on july 1st, the county will offer an express ceremony where couples can get married right away for an extra fee. >

now allow for same-sex marriage. proponents say their next step is nation bide recognition while opponents vow to fight on. pete williams has more. >> reporter: gay rights supporters crowded outside the court. cheering the historic decisions. first, a ruling striking down a law passed by congress in 1996. the defensive marriage act, known as dome that. >> doma is dead! >> reporter: that law blocked the federal government from recognizing same-sex marriages in the states ahow them, depriving those couples of more than 1,000 benefits that married couples have. in a 5-4 ruling written by justice kennedy, the court said doma serves no purpose and demeans those in a lawful same-sex marriage. declaring their marriages less worthy and humiliated tens of thousands of children raised by same-sex couples. in the second 5-4 decision, this time by chief justice roberts, the court passed out an appeal of california's proposition 8. passed by voters in 2008. it had stopped same-sex marriages in the state. the court says the people

as well as california's ban on same-sex marriage. plus roominulings on affirmativ action and the voting rights act raised questions. president obama calls for sweeping action on climate change with mandatory restrictions on greenhouse gas emissions. >> i don't have much patience for anyone who denies that this challenge is real. we don't have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. >> and bay area commuters brace for transit chaos. the possibility of a bart strike next week. coming up next. >>> good evening. i'm scott shafer. welcome to "this week in northern california." this afternoon and evening, gay and lesbian couples filled san francisco city hall to get married. the federal court made it possible today for same-sex marriages to commence immediately by lifting a court-ordered stay. the first to be wed were chris perry and sandy steer, one of the couples that challenged proposition 8, kicking off what is sure to be a historic gay pride weekend. >> it's been a celebratory week for advocates of same-sex marriage as the u.s.

substitutes something else, and defines it as same-sex -- to include same-sex couples. surely it could do that. >> yes. that would not be based on the state's >> so it's just the word "marriage"? and it's just the fact that they use this term "marriage"? >> well, that's what the federal government has always chosen to do. and that's the way the federal law is structured, and it's always been structured for 200 years based on the state police power to define who's married. the federal government i presume could decide to change that if it wanted, and somehow, it would be very strange for all 1,100 laws, but for certain programs you have different requirements other than marriage, and that would be constitutional or unconstitutional depending on the distinction. >> but if the estate tax follows state law, would not that create an equal protection problem similar to the one that exists here? suppose there were a dispute about the -- the state of residence of your client and her partner or spouse. was it new york, was it some other state where same-sex marriage would not ha

and choose and say, well, we're going to recognize opposite sex couples' marriages but not same-sex couples' marriages. justice kennedy says that part which was struck down today seems to be based on animus, on a desire to say that same-sex couples are not deserving of recognition by the federal government and justice kennedy and the majority that joins him says basically the federal government can't do that. that violates the constitution. so those -- that's the essence of the two holdings. states that have same-sex marriage legal recognition, the federal government must now recognize those marriages. those couples get all the benefits that an opposite sex couple would but states that don't allow same-sex marriage, they don't have to change anything. the decisions today say nothing as a legal matter about what they have to do. now it may well be that the -- these two decisions give a big moral boost or political boost to the efforts to spread same-sex marriage to other states but as a legal matter they don't. >> speaking of legal matters, chad griffin is now on the phone because he