with the press is a professional tool they are using we had a pulitzer prize winning journalist seymour hersh on the program telling us the way to hell with your propaganda organization in truth a man's father is obliged to speak in that way and he's not in total safety under the regime that has announced the assassination of eleven thousand convicts in the prisons over the last few weeks alone he is obliged to speak that way and i understand his position however we know that we have fulfilled our duty when we rescued his two sons from under the rubble after they were bombed by the syrian regime this is our duty and we do not expect thanks from anybody for fulfilling our duty towards our own people in syria as for the other journalists i don't know who they are the journalist that you are referring to those who have come up with such talk unless they are part of those journalists that create propaganda against the white helmets which have become known by the name we do not feel the need to respond to them because they are aware of the fact that they are lying and we know that they are lying b

and so please do have seymour hersh back. he was here last with chris hedges two years ago in may 2016. after that visit, he discovered the abe rosenthal archives here and it changed the course of his memoir. as always i'm grateful for the continued generosity of celeste backhoes mÉnage and adam birders. tonight is closing night and it has been quite the season which opened in closes tonight with seymour hersh. i would like to mark this occasion by thinking the new york public library team. in no particular order, but with gratitude i would like to thank fay rosenfeld breland grove and, kerry welch, chan ho dish, serena rocco, arden ambra said, alison paul, melissa novak, emily poland, david mackey, max clarke, richard schnur as well as the wonderful curators who have shown our special guest things of great beauty and relevance before they inspire them further. i would also like to thank the guards at the library as one is our wonderful team from park blvd. tonight i would also like to thank all of the wonderful people, perso

and i'm joined now by journalist seymour hersh he's monitoring the situation from the italian capital rome good evening to you same but i want to ask you about this rescue effort right now are we getting any reports of workers actually finding survivors in the rubble. well what we know so far is that as the rescue search and rescue operations are continued today they have managed to put four people out alive and so with that in mind they are continuing the efforts through the night the death so at the moment stands at twenty two but they expect that figure to rise that's because there have been reported some missing people reported that are still not accounted for and those that have been injured some of them are in a very serious condition so they could succumb to the injury now as you mentioned or we saw in that report this is the eve of a major public holiday here in italy for the summer period people could have been on that bridge heading out to the beach or to the mountains it's a major important bridge and motorway for the city of genoa and so they were on there at that time now

with the press it's a professional tool they are using we had a pulitzer prize winning journalist seymour hersh on the program telling us the way the helmets were a propaganda organization in truth a man's father is obliged to speak in that way and he's not in total safety under the regime that has announced the assassination of eleven thousand convicts in the prisons over the last few weeks alone he is obliged to speak that way and i understand his position however we know that we have fulfilled our duty when we rescued his two sons from under the rubble after they were bombed by the syrian regime this is our duty and we do not expect thanks from anybody for fulfilling our duty towards our own people in syria as for the other journalists i don't know who they are the journalist that you are referring to those who have come up with such talk unless they are part of those journalists that create propaganda against the white helmets which have become known by the name we do not feel the need to respond to them because they are aware of the fact that they are lying and we know that they are lying

to have seymour hersh now who can't pump be published in his own country has to be published in germany probably the greatest investigative reporter in the world hersh last year may his own reporting his own investigation made mockery of these so-called. chemical attacks. i've never known the time when so cold as you describe it mainstream surely. a satirical to. mainstream journalism has been so integrated into a propaganda. and that that propaganda campaign at the moment pointed right against russia suggests to me that it's the beginning of a kind of not the macho on russia. but the surrounding of russia with bases with american bases with nato missiles the provocations day off today. suggests this in syria where basically the russians and the syria some succeeded the the the rebels. most of whom harvests an extreme islamicist supported by the united states supported by britain us to present to as a credible opposition within syria but the whole point of all this is to take syria from the russians since the nine hundred fifty s. if you read the documents you go back and read the decla

with the press it's a professional tool they are using we had a pulitzer prize winning journalist seymour hersh on the program telling us the way the helmets were a propaganda organization in truth a man's father is obliged to speak in that way and he's not in total safety under the regime that has announced the assassination of eleven thousand convicts in the prisons over the last few weeks alone he is obliged to speak that way and i understand his position however we know that we have fulfilled our duty when we rescued his two sons from under the rubble after they were bombed by the syrian regime this is our duty and we do not expect thanks from anybody for fulfilling our duty towards our own people in syria as for the other journalists i don't know who they are the journalist that you are referring to those who have come up with such talk unless they are part of those journalists that create propaganda against the white helmets which have become known by the name we do not feel the need to respond to them because they are aware of the fact that they are lying and we know that they are lying

with the press it's a professional tool they are using we had a pulitzer prize winning journalist seymour hersh on the program telling us the way the helmets were a propaganda organization in truth a man's father is obliged to speak in that way and he's not in total safety under the regime that has announced the assassination of eleven thousand convicts in the prisons over the last few weeks alone he is obliged to speak that way and i understand his position however we know that we have fulfilled our duty when we rescued his two sons from under the rubble after they were bombed by the syrian regime this is our duty and we do not expect thanks from anybody for fulfilling our duty towards our own people in syria as for the other journalists i don't know who they are the journalist that you are referring to those who have come up with such talk unless they are part of those journalists that create propaganda against the white helmets which have become known by the name we do not feel the need to respond to them because they are aware of the fact that they are lying and we know that they are lying.

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with the press is a professional tool they are using we had a pulitzer prize winning journalist seymour hersh on the program telling us the way the helmets were a propaganda organization in truth a man's father is obliged to speak in that way and he's not in total safety under the regime that has announced the assassination of eleven thousand convicts in the prisons over the last few weeks alone he is obliged to speak that way and i understand his position however we know that we have fulfilled our duty when we rescued his two sons from under the rubble after they were bombed by the syrian regime and this is our duty and we do not expect thanks from anybody for fulfilling our duty towards our own people in syria as for the other journalists i don't know who they are the journalist that you are referring to those who have come up with such talk unless they are part of those journalists that create propaganda against the white helmets which have become known by the name we do not feel the need to respond to them because they are aware of the fact that they are lying and we know that they are li

with the press it's a professional tool they are using we had a pulitzer prize winning journalist seymour hersh on the program telling us the way the helmets were a propaganda organization in truth a man's father is obliged to speak in that way and he's not in total safety under the regime that has announced the assassination of eleven thousand convicts in the prisons over the last few weeks alone is obliged to speak that way and i on the. his position however we know that we have fulfilled our duty when we rescued his two sons from under the rubble after they were bombed by the syrian regime this is our duty and we do not expect thanks from anybody for fulfilling our duty towards our own people in syria as for the other journalists i don't know who they are the journalist that you are referring to those who have come up with such talk unless they are part of those journalists that create propaganda against the white helmets which have become known by the name we do not feel the need to respond to them because they are aware of the fact that they are lying and we know that they are lines were i

there was a guy named seymour hersh who will say i don't know if you know this, a bunch of americans went to this town called melie and shot a bunch of people. oh, and the military covered that up. the following year sheahan, that guy again will work with a guy named daniel elseburg who will release what are known as the pentagon papers, and what are the pentagon papers when it is flashed across the american post, what does it tell the american people. >> that the war has been covered up. >> that we have been deliberately and systematically lied to from eisenhower to johnson. now, why does this matter and then we will take a break? because the public gets that perception. >> you don't have an exsew stent shl threat. they are going to lose that. the credibility gap gets bigger and bigger. >> what about if you are doing good stuff. >> it doesn't matter. >> and the good stuff that we got to do right now is take a break before my credibility gap grows. good stuff. >>> okay. so we see this growing credibility gap. if you are lyndon johnson, what do you know? that walt might be right and y

there's a guy named seymour hersh that in 1969 will come out and say, hey, i don't know if you guys knew this, but in march of 1968, almost 18 months later, a bunch of americans went into this little town and shot a bunch of people. oh. and the military covered that up. the following year, neil sheehan, that guy again, will work with a guy named daniel ellsberg to replace what will become known as the pentagon papers and what do the pentagon papers, when it's splashed across the new york times and later "the washington post," what does it tell the american people? that we have been deliberately and systematically lied to from every administration from eisenhower to johnson. why does this matter? and then we're going to take a break. if the public starts to get that perception. >> they have a threat for the american people, you lose that one leg of the trinity. >> a yeah. >> the credibility gap just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger, and when you feel lied to, you're just going to lose all faith. >> what about if you're doing good stuff? >> it doesn't matter anymore. they don't b

to have seymour hersh now who can't pump be published in his own country has to be published in germany probably the greatest investigative reporter in the world hersh last year may his own reporting his own investigation made mockery of these so-called. chemical attacks. i've never known the time when so cold as you describe it mainstream surely. a satirical to. mainstream journalism has been so integrated into a propaganda. and that that propaganda campaign at the moment pointed right against russia suggests to me that it's the beginning of a kind of not the macho on russia. but the surrounding of russia with bases with american bases with nato missiles the provocations day off today. suggests this in syria where basically the russians and the syria some succeeded by blocking the the the rebels most of whom the hottest and the extreme islamicist supported by the united states supported by britain are still present to as a credible opposition within syria but the whole point of all this is to take syria from the russians since the nine hundred fifty s. if you read the documents you go