and if we find that the sfpuc is not getting it together, we can make it happen ourselves. is that a risk? yes. will stopping the not to exceed rate vote next week change much? the answer is no. and as mr. freed said, if we get this not to exceed rate thing out of the way, we see how much money we've got to work with the buildout, then we can get this second phase rolling. so, i agree with your expressing the concerns you've expressed. i wouldn't make it so leveraged on you better work with us or else. let's just express the concerns and express that you want the not to exceed rates to be competitive with pg&e. thanks. oh, and you can leave out the rec thing because if you insist that we do the local buildout that's envisioned by all the laws and resolution that the board passed, then that means we will get away from recs right away. so, you don't really need to get into that territory. >> thank you, mr. brookes. next speaker. >>> hello, commissioners, judd holtz man again from 350 bay area. i won't take too much time just to point out that mr. brookes and the advocate coal

or is that something you're going to have answered to the satisfaction of the commissioners at the sfpuc? >> i don't expect that we will have any kind of confirmation from shell about specific resources by then. what i can say is that our goal is to have a portfolio with shell where every resource from which they purchase power is greenhouse gas free, california produced, and with unionized maintenance. >> okay, thanks. so, if you can walk us through the renewable character in city. we had at the last discussion policy committee, we talked about recs and what that does or doesn't do to some of the other goals and the jobs piece, if you can move us forward with that. >> yes. and just quickly, there are sort of three aspects to this program design that we've been trying to balance in response to concerns about public officials. one is affordability. there were a lot of concerns about a 14.57 [speaker not understood] when i came in april. we're aware that everybody wants the greenest product with the highest quality products. and that we need to have resources for local bills, which is what

two, make it clear that the city and the sfpuc do not want a future that is dependent on recs. three -- i'm making it separate, melanie. four, is commit today achieving the city's -- using the program to achieve the city's greenhouse gas goals. or clean power. to achieve the city's greenhouse gas goals. and four, commit to a program that maximizes local unionized jobs. our commission has concerns about the current design of the program and the progress being made towards realizing the city's local renewable energy generation and job training goals. and we are committed -- which are -- which are vital parts of the program originally adopted by the board and supported by this commission. we -- we are committed to following the development of this program and to, whatever. >> it's just all over the place. i mean, what is the competitive pg&e? if it's easier and we can get through it, we can say that we have concerns about the current design of the program and its progress towards the city's local and renewable energy generation and local job training and placement goals. and if ne

which was spot on at the last meeting, was that was quite correct, but the built out work from the sfpuc especially, is not there yet. and now, the work that was laid on the table in front of you guys in your march meeting by local power is pretty well baked and it is not complete yet and it needs to be completed and i think that the main point that we as advocates wants to say to you instead of waiting for the sfpuc to get that work completed and telling them hey, you did not complete that work so the program can't move forward and go ahead and help us move the program forward and get it in gear and get those rates, and what we are calling you on to do is work with the board of supervisors on the lafco to the extent that they will work with you, the sfpuc on getting the build out plan finished. and so that we don't have to make our, and we don't have to delay the program and we are saying to you, is instead of saying that it is not ready, help us make it ready and work with them to make it ready and so that we don't have to wait and start the program immediately and so that is what we w

sfpuc is making great progress and is starting to show hundreds of jobs. we can show thousands. and the key to that is that the advocates community has called upon the local agency formation commission to create -- to hold a workshop, a financial workshop in which we will bring experts around california into the financial workshop to look at the local power work and show how that billion dollars over 10 years can happen. and what you can do as a commission that would help us more than anything else is send the communication to the local agency formation commission that you support the idea that works and would like the lafco to work very closely and cooperatively with the advocates to make sure that workshop is successful. thank you. >> thank you. ~ workshop next speaker. >> could i just observe that i'm extraordinarily moved and impressed by eric burks' comments. i remember sitting in the ground floor of the old sfe offices. >>> yes. >> in the dark. [laughter] >> on really uncomfortable chairs. >>> i remember. >> and hearing eric excoriate the puc? don't you love that word? i n

is that there were two big times and other times in the past when clean power sf was halted by the sfpuc and the advocates felt that both time in the unwarranted fashion, and one was in 2004 when the original ordinance was passed to start the clean power sf and the no comment, this is no comment on the current, and but the staff then, literally refused to draw up the implementation plan for the program and it took, when it was form, it was largely formed to accept pardon the clean power sf as a city agency project, and in 2004 when it happened, alaska stepped in and hired the creators of the clean power sf, local power. and actually it did not each hire, the creators they did it probono and that, the local power to do the implementation plan in lafco, they introduced that plan. and that brought this sfupc back to the table and kind of shuned them and came back and got to work and worked on a plan with us and then in 2011, after we had for many years, said, that for the commission and it is staff to work on the most important aspect of this program and it is the most important aspect to t

for 60 years, the power plants are in the southeast sector, but in the other areas where the sfpuc staff conducted a survey and said, those people are willing to pay more money for so-called clean energy. this debate is [inaudible] and for the people who have spoken here has stated that to you, this debate is defumary, this is san francisco, this started a droning time ago, this hydro electricity and today it is going backwards. >> thank you, mr. david atoray. welcome. >> good afternoon, commissioners, david altore with the labor 261 and i took the liberty to writing my thoughts down on paper, the labor have long sought to be elite partner this the city's pursuit of renewable energy and job creation goal, back in march bh the sfpuc thought of setting rates, we asked three critical questions on behalf of our members many of whom are here today, in the overflow room, and they are one, where this program create jobs for our members and the local community members we seek to promote, how many jobs will the program create and three, where and when will these jobs be created? today we have no

before that, it was a struggle with the sfpuc power enterprise to get the buildout on the table. since ms. malcolm showed up, we've got the rates down. they're going to be competitive with pg&e, without which competitive rates, there would be no buildout because there would be no customers. since ms. malcolm came on board, much more of the local power analysis that you saw in a presentation a couple months ago from local power that shows how we can get thousands of jobs within the next ten years building hundreds of local renewables in efficiency, much more of that vision although not all of it has struggled to materialize under ms. malcolm so she deserves a lot of credit. so, the main thing i wanted to do is clear up a major misconception that i'm seeing this evening that will help you understand what we're talking about with renewable energy credits, with the shell contract, and how we're going to get to the buildout, the green new deal and union labor. and you may know that i'm sure all of you got the sierra club letter that said we are going to insist that this program be anc

their water to take a bath and so on and so forth, so even though we have certain so-called experts at sfpuc and experts a t the san francisco health department, we need to post the findings on the internet so that we have full transparency and accountability. the water, hatch hatch khao*e water is sacred water and i've said this before o the commissioners, every time i go and meet the first people, they offer me that water always. they don't offer me anything else but that water. that's how much they respect that water. as for the chloramine, we need to address that so that fewer people are adversely impacted by chloramine, thank you very much. >> thank you, mr. decosta, any further comments on the communications item in the agenda? alright, there being none, we'll move forward to item number 6. other commission business? any public comment on other commission business? item number 7, we move to report of the general manager. >> i have nothing to report. >> nothing to report. consent calendar? i know there was a witness that wanted to testify on an item on the consent calendar but it has to

. >> the city for the sfpuc, it was critical that the building stay as a lead building.iest thing to do to cut out millions of dollars, let's just go from lead platinum to lead gold. but that wasn't the objective. this needed to be the best example of energy conservation of any office building in the united states. >> we became involved in the san francisco public utilities headquarter project during the time when the project was at a stand still for a number of reasons, largely due to budget issues. and at the time we were asked to consider an alternative design using concrete rather than the scheme that was potentially planned for previous to that, which was a steel frame structure that used hydraulic dampers to control seismic motion. >> so, i met with my team. we worked hard. we came up with a great idea. let's take out the heavy steel structure, let's put in an innovative vertical post tension concrete structure, great idea. we did that. a lot of other things. and we came up with a price of 140 million. so, we achieved that goal. and, so, when we first started looki

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that's the sfpuc building.l building. ♪ ♪ today we are going to talk about fire safety. we are here at the urban center on mission street in san francisco. it's a wonderful display. a little house in the urban center exhibition center that shows what it's like in a home in san francisco after an earthquake. one of the major issues that we are going to face after earthquakes are fire hazard. we are happy to have the fire marshall join us today. >> thank you. my pleasure. >> we talk about the san francisco earthquake that was a fire that mostly devastated the city. how do we avoid that kind of problem. how can we reduce fire hazard? >> the construction was a lot different. we don't expect what we had then. we want to make sure with the gas heaters that the gas is shut off. >> if you shut it off you are going to have no hot water or heat. be careful not to shut it off unless you smell gas. >> absolutely because once you o

but without putting you into, you know, sfpuc and cpuc and you're the director of energy division. but what would drive someone, a very respected official to stand up and basically say what's kind of happening here with recs is not real green power? what's the answer back? because people are talking about that. >> i very much don't want to get too much into the middle of the actual plan for clean energy san francisco because i really don't know the details of the current iterations of it. it does come down to what your policy preferences are, though. it is purely a carbon reduction policy preference, an unbundled and a bundled rec shouldn't make that much of a difference. and then it's important to emphasize that what makes the biggest difference is what does the rec come from. i mean, the question about solar panels in san francisco is a great example. so, there is -- solar panels are being installed in san francisco today under combination of rebates from the city and county of san francisco and from the california solar initiative. you know, pg&e takes that power through an ener

that's the sfpuc building.l building. ♪ ♪ >> there has been an acknowledgement of the special places around san francisco bay. well, there is something sort of innate in human beings, i think, that tend to recognize a good spot when you see it, a spot that takes your breath away. this is one of them. >> an icon of the new deal. >> we stood here a week ago and we heard all of these dignitaries talk about the symbol that coit tower is for san francisco. it's interesting for those of us in the pioneer park project is trying to make the point that not only the tower, not only this man-built edifice here is a symbol of the city but also the green space on which it sits and the hill to which is rests. to understand them, you have to understand the topography of san francisco. early days of the city, the city grows up in what is the financial district on the edge of chinatown. everything they rely on for existence is the golden gate. it's of massive importance to the people what comes in and out of san francisco bay.

we know they are -- sfuk sfpuc is coming up with rules. it's determined that this is not ride sharing. these are commercial businesses with profit and venture capital behind them. it makes a mockery of the existing taxi cab industry where anyone can take a car and make-up their own rules and start picking up the public. the consequences to that is going to be without a doubt possibly for the first time i'm really thinking the taxi industry may come to an end in san francisco. we have had years of poor regulatory oversight. we need to be a more reliable service. where are the medallions to make us compete, where are you are the standards and professional services that we need to put onto these cab companies. we must professionalize this industry, put out medallions put out standard and make us compete. now we are competing against hundreds of cars and making our own rules and regretting the industry very quickly. every cab company has now a real shortage of drivers because people are realizing why do i want to go to the expense to meet a dr

with our sfpuc, with the department of the environment and melanie is here today and doing a great job with our mos connie center and i know we have a lot of panels up there already but doesn't fill all the roof tops and there is new technology coming out all the time. we have been challenged in the solar technology arena because traditional technology has heavy weight technology that always challenged the integrity of roof tops, and moscone is the one we found and let that be for one of these companies and light ultralight technology and use, cheaper way of getting solar out there and we're going to allow them to demonstrate their product on top of our mos connie roof and that is an example we're doing in utilizing all of the agency's cooperations and make sure the start ups can use real testing sites in the city. that is thanks to the hardand kelly and the manager at puc and barbara hale and the second thing we're going to do is take a page out of what we're doing with clean tech and biotech life sciences. you see what mission bay is doing. they have for the last ten years building u

supports a large infrastructure, and belonging to the port, and other local agencies such as muni sfpuc and bart. >> on the wall it provides flood protection to the eastern portion of the city which includes the financial district, and with this intro, i would like to turn it over and after his presentation, i will go over it again for the issues. >> thank you, oday. >> good afternoon, commissioners and executive director. and i am joe rashay the structural engineer for the port of san francisco and i will now continue with the sea wall presentation. today's water front edge where the city meets the bay is very different from the city shore line in 1863. which in turn was quite different from the city shore line at the start of the 1848 gold rush. from 1848 to 1863, the development of the san francisco water front was disorganized and poorly planned. cargo ship traffic was growing faster than the water front infrastrubt tur could handle. in 1863, the state of california, too control of the port and established the board of the state harbor commissioners, to develop master plans for a ne

. >> so, when you say the sfpuc is buying power itself, could you maybe explain a bit more what that means and how it relates to the shell contract and all that stuff? because i'm not entirely clear how that would work. >> sure. the way the shell contract was originally envisioned by the staff was that shell would basically buy, sell, schedule all power for the program, up to 30 megawatts. there are two ways we could do that a little bit differently that we've been talking about internally. we could, for example, reduce the shell contract a little bit by some portion and buy the net short ourselves, schedule it, create a portfolio for that small amount of power, and have shell go ahead and schedule -- buy and sell the power within the contract amounts, the contract [speaker not understood]. or we could take all scheduling and management decisions in-house and treat shell as a -- as one supplier in a portfolio, just a power supply, not an energy manager. we're analyzing that internally and we are getting some help from a consultant who has expertise in this area as well. >> would the

that's the sfpuc building. it's a wonderful building. ♪ ♪ . >> this class is managing a disaster.s and how do we fit in? emergency operation plan, everything is going to go through the mayor. you have the office of emergency services, everything is supposed to come together over on turk street. that's where the ham radio base station is going to be. that's where they will have a set up. they will be communicating with all the different emergency response districts. that's where we fit in. we're going to fit into this emergency response staging thing into nert staging districts. each response district has its own little (inaudible) then the nert groups are broken up into the corresponding emergency response districts and they are located at our fire department, battalion chief stations, basically there's a battalion chief there, he will be like the little commander of that district as far as we're concerned and the fire department's response. going to have the ham radio communication people there, they are going to set up a little base station in that fire station and they are also