there was the sfpuc bawsca editorial. we followed that, got off to a rocky start, and there was no discussion at the commission level for four months, not until january of 2017. and there really wasn't much input from the commission, which i think would be valuable this time around. the -- your staff put together a brief, and we had a -- kind of a scathing critique of it, and chair courtney then encouraged staff to meet with us, which we appreciated. we started getting more information, and over the course of a year, i think we've put together a package that would work for both the economy and the environment, and we'd like to discuss that with you. the staff responded to our critique, and i thought it was a fairly weak response, but nothing really happened from that. so i do hope that we can get this scheduled. the comment deadline on the final s.e.d. is july 27, so if you were to have this discussion at your next meeting on the 24th, that would be in advance of that. the decision is expected on august 21 or 22, so it's