neighborhood groups, [speaker not understood], park merced, environmental groups, green party, sierra club, sft, environmental justice groups from bayview hunters point. so, there were, you know, a large number. 30, 40 groups involved. as far as outreach, yes, supervisor wiener was good enough to call some meetings. [speaker not understood] cancellations and misinformation. he was good enough to listen to us. however, you know, that's half the battle. they result in some of our most pressing needs. ~ were not answered and that's why we're here today, because we have some very important issues. first of all, the first approval trigger, that could be very misleading. it could go under the radar. and it seems like it's a method to sneak through projects that when people are not on guard. and as far as notification of cad x's, it was going to be posted on the planning website. at one of our meetings with one of the supervisors' aides who is very proficient in using the computer, i asked him, well, let's see how easy it is to find the cad x's and see what's being approved. and he tried to go to plan