and until i become easy about it, up we become reasonably convinced that won't hurt the sfugs, you're going to get a conservative reaction. that's what i think is -- >> senator, it's maybe unfair to put this this question to you since you're such a youngster here, but do you really -- >> best thing that's been said about me in a long time. >> do you really think the process in the senate has been improved since the proceedings have been televised? >> well, just as you took a pact earlier -- i think there are mixed view, but i think in general openness and trafrns parns city improves institutions. and for all the reasons that you have so elegantly talked about your role in educating the american public, i think that an audio and visual recording of supreme court hearings would potentially do the same. and i think that whatever the result of televising senate proceedings, and i was only i a facetious when i would you would take a pass. i think it has been a step in the right direction of providing transparency and understanding on the part of the public. i'll let you and the public be t

the cons sfugs allows the president to make only when the session is in reez. recess. even one accept the senate is in recess continually, the recess appointment power never comes into play. now, let me close by saying that i'm reasonably confident, and we can discuss that a bit more, that the courts will strike down this unprecedent eed power by t president. not to do so would greatly weaken civil liberty, the ultimate preservation of separation of powers and checks and balances. unfortunately a great deal is damage has already been done. as an article 2 person, ironic in the process of curbing president obama unlawful power grab the court may write and opinion that might weaken executive authority in other more congenial circumstance. unfortunately, that's the price one pays for acting unconstitutionally and more importantly the price is often paid by the institution of the presidency and not just the particular president. thank you. >> thank you. thank you very much, david. okay. our final speaker is walter. a member of the appellate and heads the supreme court and