on the internet by al- shabaab. compelling reason for britain to sort out its issues now. david cameron called this conference, and it has been well attended. his message? somalia is becoming a global problem. its people deserve proper governance. >> in a country where there is so little hope, chaos and violence and terrorism, terrorists are disrupting vital trade routes and kidnapping tourists. young minds are being who kidnapped by return to radicalism. >> al-shabaab makes no secret about what it would like to do with the western-backed government in mogadishu. it has been joined by 204 insiders, and britain makes up the largest contingent. this man is accused of possessing explosives for al- shabaab. his lawyer says a confession was beaten out of him. back in britain, mi's is headquartered here along with a home office and secret intelligence service. they have been briefing the prime minister, but sooner or later they think some of those who have headed out to fight against al-shabaab -- to fight for al-shabaab

. >> concerning ool k-- al-qaeda, al shabaab. people are coming from the united states to join al shabaab, and i'm asking you what we should do to define this threat? >> i would keep separate al-qaeda and al shabaab. i think al-qaeda san organization under siege and is in decline. al shabaab is under pressure by both the in to neegss a-- insurgents and under the gun. al shabaab has largely been folk you had on issues within the horn of africa rather than pressing out into our threats. we train and then fight. >> and to both of you all, on tuesday, general dempsey testified that the military government and egypt is a ware they stand to lose 1 billion 8 from the united states, and we've been a solid partner. according to press reports, the same government general dempsey spoke of is losing power to anti-american factions. some of these factions are a campaign to end the u.s. aid to egypt. based on your intelligence assessments, will we be able to rely of a future egyptian government to uphold the 1999 peace treacy with israel. >> t

in the capital, african union peacekeepers say that al-shabaab has been driven out. there are fears about the influence of the group outside of somalia. in concern for the uk. >> i think the security threat is real. it is substantial. it is encourages violent jihad inside somalia. there is a danger of young british somalis having their minds poisoned. it is a terrorist threat. it could get worse. >> the power vacuum has allowed a tax on international merchant ships. that is why the u.k. has taken steps to put on cards on ships. >> you are only dealing with the symptom rather than the cause. somalia has not been a functioning state. there has not been proper governance. we have to put in place all of those building blocks. the people are starving -- starting to do that. we can help them to do just that. >> efforts have already taken place in the u.k. mr. cameron knows the people themselves need to be engaged. at home, a road. >> bells from notre dame has inspired people for centuries but their deafening sound has hit a sour note as we report. >> the cathedral is offer

somalia is driven by violence common and most of which is driven by al-shabaab, the militant group but has announced his if relation to al qaeda. six years on, it now controls much of the center and south of the country, but in the capital mogadishu, african and european who -- african keep users reaching peace keepers -- peace keepers. >> i think the security threat is real. it is substantial, and it encourages violent the hot -- violent jihaad. there is a danger of young artists somalis having their mind tainted by this organization. >> the power vacuum has allowed pirates to attack international merchant ships of the east african coast, and that is why the u.k. has taken steps to put armed guards on merchant ships. >> you are only dealing with the symptom rather than the cause. somalia has not been a functioning state. there has not been the rule of law. there has not been proper government or a proper level of those four people, so we have to put in place all of those building blocks. the somalia people are starting to do that, and the aim is to help them do just that. >> those eff

have been killed in a car bomb attack in the somali capital mogadishu the islamist militant group al-shabaab has claimed responsibility saying they targeted a restaurant frequented by members of parliament at least two politicians were injured in the blast african union troops have largely pushed the group out of the capital but still suicide bombs continue. and this is the moment a metro train in chill a failed safety tests eventually coming to a grinding halt above ground luckily no one was seriously hurt in the incident in the country's capital santiago the driver escaped with minor cuts and bruises several cars were damaged no one crushed beneath the runaway train. archies interview is next we speak with former israeli ambassador. to discuss the position his country occupies on today's worldwide political stage. you are. what we are how this radio. who recently resigned from the government on grounds of principle he said he could no longer serve in a government whose policies he did not agree with ambassador thank you very much for joining us here in our team you resigned after more than

being killed in a car bomb attack in the somali capital mogadishu the islamist militant group al-shabaab claimed responsibility saying it targeted a restaurant frequented by members of parliament at least two lawmakers were injured in the blast african union troops have largely pushed the group out of the capital but suicide bombings continue. americans trying to keep up on the right road constantly while looking for a boost the united states is now the world's largest consumer of coffee and it's a passion pushing people to devour caffeine and potentially dangerous volumes. of reports on the country's craving. in the city that never sleeps or perpetual craving for energy never eases i nearly every manhattan street you'll find two things a coffee shop and customers cupping their fix a liquefied legal stimulant that most can't envision quitting i feel like you know i get it wrong. so i go to the three of us. and i don't know if i could give a i love. it five or six cups a day yes but i'm not good to much of anything like this are going to drink three cups definitely. americans consume four

al shabaab basically headquartered in somalia, a governmentless state.shabaab and al qaeda have officially joined forces according to ayman al-zawahiri. perhaps he is trying to puff up resume' or credentialals i should say of the group he is running but that appears to be the case at least according to ayman al-zawahiri. we'll have more from our pentagon people what this could mean later on. >>> parents of teenagers should listen up. drug-sniffing dogs may be the new way to keep your kids out of trouble. and guess what? now you can rent one. plus mitt romney, the latest presidential candidate to get glitter bombed. it is a growing trend and why the guy accused of tossing the sparkly stuff at romney faces criminal charges. ♪ . [ male announcer ] capri sun has 25% less sugar than leading regar juice drinks. because less sugar is a better way to fly. ♪ just not literally. capri sun. respect what's in the pouch. jon: new in the next hour of "happening now", submarines, elaborate tunnels and panels tucked inside vehicles, just some of the tactics being tried

have been killed in a car bomb attack in the somali capital mogadishu these lamas militant group al shabaab claimed responsibility saying it targeted a restaurant frequented by members of parliament at least two politicians were injured in the blast african union troops have largely pushed a book out of the capital but suicide bombings continue. now it's time for our russia close of series where we're heading to central russia to discover and neither are little known region of this vast country. where heading to the birthplace of lenin but now the region is making its name making passenger planes and teaching the pilots of tomorrow. tells us about a place with sky high ambitions. it was in the late seventy's that the industrial aviation complex was created obvious starr is one of the largest manufacturers of passenger planes as well as re modernizing existing cargo planes that travel worldwide their islam plane is one of the largest operating cargo aircraft originally designed for the russian military but when the soviet union fell a demand did too obvious star has been renovating existing

al-shabaab for its part has been largely focused on regional issues.at is within the horn of africa as opposed to project and a homeland threat. is othersome of course at t number of foreign fighters recruited the debris and train them and fight. >> finally, general to both of you are, on tuesday, general dempsey texas i'd do governments in egypt is where the film is $1.3 blion of aid from the united states. we have been a solid partner. according to press reports, the same government general empsey spoke of his living power to anti-american factions. some are campaigned to end u.s. aid to egypt. based on your intelligence assessments, will we be able to rely on a future egyptian government to uphold the 1979 peace treaty with israel? >> that's an excellent question, sir and i think thawill depend very much on the continuation of the transitional proce in egypt, particularly when they write their constitution and what the constitution may or may not pay about the treaty with israel. i think under any circumstance circumstance -- acampora s-sierra see h

we've seen some evil, there are no doubts that terrorists, and al-shabaab's relationship with terroristsounter pry as se piracy force getting ready to go into action. here in somalia, there is a police force conducting operations on the air, on the ground and at sea. we're at a small air base on the coast of somalia, that is the gulf of aiden behind us. we are accompanying the marine police force set up with the help with the united arab emirates to counter piracy, this aircraft the an26, the work horse of africa is conducting a photo recon nance of pirates and captured ships and locations where hostages are being held. we are going to a company them on this mission. let's go. we over flew pirates flotillas and their land bases but avoided hijacked ships to prevent endangering hostages. the maritime police also conduct operations ashore. in training new police officers like this it isn't just how to fire a weapon, it's teamwork, integrity of the unit and looking after one another. that is when these new police officers are being trained to do. [sound of gunfire] >> countering piracy requ

when we saw a junk -- young somalis, american citizens who traveled from minneapolis over to job al-shabaab in that country and what we know, there have been at least three americans who have died as suicide bombers there. >> megyn: catherine, thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. megyn: we may have more on that subject at 1:45 when dan gillerman joins us live. they've been living like this in israel for years. is this the future for us if israel bombs iran and iran decides to retaliate? we'll take a closer look in 30 minutes. >>> want to get to the sudden drop in the president's approval rating earlier this week. we told you about it moments ago. there are questions about whether soaring gas prices could be behind that drop in his approval numbers, and perhaps, concerns about his reelection. right now, the national average for a gallon of regular is 3.53. but with the price of oil rising almost 5 percent in the last few weeks, you could soon be paying a lot more than that 3.53 at the pump. stu varney is anchor of "varney & company" on the fox business network. i said a moment ago this is

prime minister of mogadishu this week offered the west oil concessions in return for help fighting al shabaabere. i want to remember a friend, anthony shadid and to remember that so many journalists, many of whom are never named in the media because they're arabs or nonbrits die covering the war. they tell the story of people and everyone who doesn't know anthony shadid's work should read all of his work. the world lost a great truth teller. >> i want to thank my guests today. ann-marie slaughter, from the women or women international, elise jordan, former speech writer for condoleeza rice and jeremy scahill from the nations magazine. we'll be back next saturday and sunday at 8:00 eastern time. the guests include democratic congressman steve cohen and sara vowel. check on us at up .msnbc.com. up next is melissa harris-perry. we'll see you next week here on "up." what do you get when you combine the home depot with this weekend? the cure for cabin fever. because with get-it-done savings on everything we need... we can turn this weekend into a fresh floor... or an updated bathroom... or a brand

are taken out that needless to say is quite a better year and al qaeda and the rhythm peninsula, al-shabaab and other organizations of sustained important losses as well. having said that, the threat of terrorism remains significant coming and we must sustain the campaign. we must maintain the pressure on al qaeda and its affiliates and other violent extremist organizations wherever they may be. beyond that, i would also incur with director clabber that there has been continued important progress in of the organizational aspects of the war on her, the counter terrorist campaign has benefited enormously from the continued efforts to better integrate intelligence for the various elements of the community to work together more effectively and frankly even within the individual agencies to further the progress in the integration of efforts between say the cia operators as well as analysts in bringing together all of the different components of our organization and the rest of the intelligence community say in the counterterrorism center and some of the other centers that we have as well. >> gen

aqap and al-shabaab as well as that from al qaeda and iraq, aqi and all three of which inspired to conductutside of their borders. i want to mention with special emphasis the threat posed by the al qaeda affiliate in north africa which calls itself al qaeda in the land of the islamic monrad, or aqim. for the past few years, aqim has been and after threat when discussing the terrorist threat. this may be about to change. recent public records played out that aqim of which is traditionally operated in the parts of algeria and moly is well positioned to exploit instability and pockets of extremism in libya and nigeria and to create new safe havens. the report also raised concerns about the tens of millions of dollars aqim has received from ransom payments for hostages and other illicit activities. i believe the intelligence community needs to move now to be prepared to address this possible growing threat. then there is iran and north korea. while the overall terrorist threat may be down, the threat from the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction from iran and north korea is growing. on

al qaeda is now made a coalition with al-shabaab, and i just came back from north africa and everywhere i went from to nisha to algeria we talking about security and about al qaeda and the moderate. we have to be not only responding with our intelligence community and military means if necessary, but we have to be on the ground picking up the information that can then be shared with intelligence and military professionals, and we also put together for the first time this past year a global counterterrorism forum where we have the major players from arnold the world and i hosted the first meeting with turkey in september. we are setting up a center to counter violent extremism. so these are all parts of the multitude rolled up the diplomacy and the development experts that stayed in the u.s. aid performed every single day and obviously we think its important work because we do it with great pride. >> think you for that. the dewitt with great pride and great effect. i think one of the things i was struck by this isn't under the 150 account it is under the commerce account which i also ser