by al-shabaab. everybody in the community feels the same way as i do which is condemning. >> what about those websites? could i find pro al-shabaab or anti kenya websites in the somalian language based in the united states? >> i'm not aware of any websites of such. >> the kenyan government has painted a picture of 10 to 15 attackers, one with the british and of the 3 with american citizenship, what is your best estimate to anyone on the panel as to how many attackers their work and how many had waivers. >> we have very little to go on right now. the kenyan of 40 was slow providing information about the attack. we don't know the basics, how many attackers in what groups, how many estate, where hostages taken, we have varied little to go on other than it turns out a fake twitter account from al-shabaab which gave a list of names of people and we have no ability -- >> we don't even think that is al-shabaab. >> al-shabaab said this wasn't them. >> finally does al-shabaab have substantial support among s

al-shabaab? dr. jones? >> my understanding is that they have used surrogates to send out messages on twitter but i cannot speak to twitters policies on using, on monitoring or targeting al-shabaab on twitter. i would also say much like a number of militant groups including once affiliated with al qaeda they have become active on multiple social media forums including in this twitter case to get information out as a propaganda tool. >> is does anyone else want to weigh in on that? >> al-shabaab attracts a lot of young people who are media savvy and they use their skills and familiarity with social media to great effect posting videos and it's a powerful recruitment tool. i think we need to respond to that. it was very interesting -- the excuse me and let me interrupt you would deal him by we need to respond? >> we need to be smart in how we use information. to give you one example as the west gate attack was unfolding al-shabaab were churning out messages going to the kenyan authorities on twitter

it also makes clear that al- shabaab poses a threat to u.s. partner nations and american citizens and u.s. interests in the region and elsewhere. al-shabaab must be stopped. the federal government of somalia must is increased if capacity. unified a fractured political theem and provide to somalia people. for all of this, the government needs our support and much more. our primary interest is amalia at helping people of somalia build a peaceful nation that is stable with a stable government that is able to ensure civil security and services for its citizens. to turn to what our policy engagement in somalia. admission of the federal government of somalia, our policy had three primary elements. provide support for african andn mission in somalia strategic partner, ethiopia to combat al-shabaab and political space -- and provide political space for the government to operate. second, we wanted to respond to demand debt to the humanitarian crisis -- we want to respond to the humanitarian crisis. and the dual policy. , the threetion elements of our s

>> well, knowledge al shabaab has confirmed that there was a raid, i've just been speak to an al shabaab spokesman and said the raid took place about 2:00 a.m. exactly how many raiders were involved in the attack he said perhaps between ten to 15, nothing more. he said the attack was on a house was close to the beach, the attackers approached the beach in boats. he said they thought there was a gun blast between 20 minutes and half an hour. he said only one vessel was killed but speaking to another western source, a security source, told me that the attack took place, that he understood it was, quote, successful. the chair was killed. we're going oneed to wait for more details to come out but it certainly seems that this attack did happen. clearly, it's very significant development, the belaway is al shabaab's main base, very, very important strategically for them and mill tailor. >> peter gresta in moag mogadis. >>> difficulties they are facing. >> this is what a road side bomb does to an armored military carrier. al shabaab punched a hole through, the soldiers survived but the vehicle

can we go back to al shabaab and the breaking news we have. what does this mean for al shabaab?ink we have all seen over the last decade plus years that, you know, they go after these various targets and they feel they really have the evidence to go after them, they are involved in terrorist activities. does that really end the terrorist organization 12 years later, 15 years later, we see al qaeda morphing into various organizations around the world. in fact, al shabaab, the al shabaab group is an al qaeda linked group that pledged a certain amount of loyalty to al qaeda. many groups in libya and syria. what you are dealing with around the world since 9/11 is, you know, al qaeda 2.0 is what a lot of people call it. back in 2001, you had osama bin laden, you had the group of men around him. they have largely been dealt with. you can see the eruption of al qaeda organizations throughout the middle east, throughout africa, mainly in areas where governments are poor and people are not looked after by their governments, there's a lot of poverty and ability for them to recruit constan

this is the mosque where al- shabaab clerics preached just a few -- priest. -- al-shabaab clerics preached. >> maybe you don't have one. maybe you are not going to school. and you get money. according to islamic -- good financial support from al- shabaab. this neighborhood has been on a watchlist for more than a year. that, following sustained security operations in this area, that some al-shabaab operatives have escaped and gone into hiding. by april, authorities had indications that they had regrouped and were planning a terror attack in nairobi. with allegations of intelligence failure and a power struggle within the security services, whereby the leads missed that could have saved lives here? viable leads missed that could have saved lives here? of theciate director rand corporation joins me now. karen is reporting that al- shabaab recruited from kenyans. what do you make of that? >> what we see with al-shabaab is the ability to recruit not just within somalia and bring in individuals from the united states. they have access to individuals from communities like minneapolis. but they al

al shabaab works as the proxy in kenya. u.s. special forces captured an al qaeda operative wanted for the 1998 bombings of u.s. embassies in kenya and tanz ani. abu anas al libi has topped the u.s. most wanted list for years. officials have wanted al libi to face trial in an american court. he joined al qaeda soon after its founding. straight first to barbara starr, our pentagon correspondent. she is working her sources at the pentagon and has the latest on these two major operations here. let's talk about what happened in somalia first. so, when did this commando raid take place and tell us who the s.e.a.l.s intended to capture, barbara. >> this occurred in the last 24 hours. a us navy s.e.a.l. team moving into an al shabaab stronghold town in south central somalia. they were going after someone they believe to be a major figure in the al shabaab network. this is the al qaeda affiliation in somalia that recently spread into kenya, in that shopping mall attack. growing concern that the group had rising strength and rising ab abi

al shabaab said one fighter was killed. that raid comes exactly two weeks after al shabaab attacked a shopping mall in neighboring kenya. 71 people died in the siege at the westgate mall in nairobi. we have reporters in both countries. let's begin with peter gresta in mogadishu. peter, how much or what do we know about this raid? >> reporter: well, stephen, as you just mentioned, there are conflicting accounts. al shabaab insists it was a sea-borne raid. it happened about 2:00 o'clock this morning. they said that the attackers, western attackers came ashore, launched their offensive on a safe house close to the beach, and they said it lasted anywhere from an hour to an hour and a half before they were able to fight off attackers. al shabaab insists there were no senior commanders there at the time but they acknowledged one of their fighters was killed in the operation. western security forces have said that it was an operation that was carried out by the americans. they say that the al shabaab leader was believed to have be

this is the mosque where al- shabaab clerics preached just a few -- priest. -- al-shabaab clerics preached>> maybe you don't have one. maybe you are not going to school. and you get money. according to islamic -- good financial support from al- shabaab. this neighborhood has been on a watchlist for more than a year. that, following sustained security operations in this area, that some al-shabaab operatives have escaped and gone into hiding. by april, authorities had indications that they had regrouped and were planning a terror attack in nairobi. with allegations of intelligence failure and a power struggle within the security services, whereby the leads missed that could have saved lives here? viable leads missed that could have saved lives here? of theciate director rand corporation joins me now. karen is reporting that al- shabaab recruited from kenyans. what do you make of that? >> what we see with al-shabaab is the ability to recruit not just within somalia and bring in individuals from the united states. they have access to individuals from communities like minneapolis. but they also

al shabaab says one of its fighters was killed weeks after al shabaab attacked a shopping mall in nairobi. >> under the control of al shabaab, attacked last night by wide wrest earn forces. they targeted a house on the beach. they came from the sea but all forces were ready and started shooting at them. there was heavy fight that lasted for an hour and a half. when they realized they failed, they fled toward the sea and took fast boats that were waiting for them. there were wide western fors. after an investigation, we can confirm they were british and turki turkish. we have inflicted heavy losses on them. we have confirmed that we have injured 5 of them and killed one. the one who died was brist issue. one was turkish. only one of our fighters were killed. we knew they were going to attack one of the areas on al shabaab controlled. we are aware that. >> we have reporters in kenya and in somalia. peter greste is in mogadishu. we begin with this from peter >> reporter: we understand around 2:00 o'clock this morning, special forces, soldiers attacked a house on the beach that was spairnth f

al shabaab is claiming this is a victory. for the s.e.a.l.s to carry this out in an area al shabaab considers a safe ground for them, they have to be feeling that tonight. don? >> stand by. don't go away, everyone. >>> the breaking news this hour on cnn is there have been two big operations carried out across the ocean. breaking news on cnn. one is a group that claimed responsibility for the deadly mall killing in kenya, u.s. special forces went on a mission in somalia to take one of their leaders out. the other one is a top al qaeda operative has also been taken out. at least the first person. we are not sure. they went on a mission. the second person, the person in africa here, in libya has been taken out. there are two operations going on. we are talking this man who topped the most wanted list for years. in fact, he is the al qaeda operative responsible for the 1998 bombing of the u.s. embassies. again, may have been captured. barbara starr is our pentagon correspondent. update us on the story, please. >> the senior u.s.

is this embolden al-shabaab moving forward? >> from my perspective, taking direct action is one element of multifaceted approach being taken vis-À-vis al-shabaab and the circumstances or under which it was pursued were outlined by the president and his national diversity speech and selected cases where i think more directly as indirect approach and the three major pieces of that. and i think one is continuing to support them and their activities against al-shabaab. the second is working with the somali national security and their counterterrorism terrorism going forward. work that we are doing what the other partners in the region on a bilateral basis, whether it's directly with the kenyans or the ethiopians order anything else, all of them have faced various threats from al-shabaab based upon their willingness to participate in the amazon and several of them have borne the results in their territory. so a key part of this tragedy, vis-À-vis al-shabaab is the continued support with today's bilateral support in the region. >> th

clearly has the main tact of al-shabaab. on what amazon needs to be successful and what we need to further restrict -- transition look like to incredible national somali. charcoal when the movement controls -- it generated revenue by controlling road junction and levying taxes. couldn't operate. now it has lost control but it remains very close by. we can tax the charcoal trade as a source of production rather than a source of on ward distribution. it really is critical. the affords them the opportunity impact any trade that is coming from mogadishu and tax and also make revenue all the charcoal business. many other cities. so they are stuck using that limit number of force in a static security role. the factorrest way for them to free up and be able to deploy them would be if the somali federal government work with local administration to actually craft govern mans in the area. global forces particularly national army or other forces provide local security and let amazon take the fight toward al-shabaab. and other spoil lee

al-shabaab must be stopped. the federal government of somalia must increase the capacity to encounter al-shabaab to unify and fractured political system, and provide basic services to the somali people. they need our support and much more. our primary interest helps the people of somalia build a peaceful nation that is stable with a stable government to insure civil security. this leads me to turn what our policy engagement is. prior to recognition we have three primary elements provide trevor kidd union mission orgy amazon the strategic partnership to combat al-shabaab and provide political space for the government to operate. second, we want to respond to these humanitarian crisis to initiate stabilization responsible and to promote the dual track policy. post transition the three elements of the policy had devolved as follows. first we continue to support amazon as a primary stabilizing force as we experienced a resistence to the somali national army from the institutional capacity from 2007 to introduce 30 i

the somali forces ultimately defeat al-shabaab. it is inextricably linked to this, which is why they adopted this nearly 10 years ago. including what remains elusive. some have translated this with frustrated progress of the national level and communities in communities across this are taking matters into their own hands and are carving out fine lines. this includes direct u.s. engagement and sent the wrong signal with sectarian policies. the process includes three challenges. first, provisional constitution is deeply ambiguous about the shape of the federal government of somalia and divisions of power. the meaning of federalism, many of who are legitimately concerned about a legitimate waste state, including an effective judicial branch that can talk about these provisions. and also those who play the leading role on the national dialogue are yet to be established. the constitution calls for the formation of a dozen independent commissions, including those that are on the boundaries and the commission and implementation commission

al shabaab is holding its fire. peter gresta, al jazeera in southern somalia. >>> in cambodia, heavy rain has called the micong river to burst its banks. so far, thousands of families have been forced to leave their homes. meteorologists are worried flooding around the capitol could be the worst for 17 years. veronica pedrosa is the here with more >> reporter: cambodia is one of the world's least developed countries, but it also has a big united nations aid agency presence and international non-government organization presence. so, the response to this flooding disaster has been quite rapid and quite thorough. what we have seen is that heavy rains since the third week of september added to a typhoon that's just hit the neighboring country of vietnam, have contributed to high waters along the micong river here in cambodia. what that's meant is that 10 out of 24 provinces in cambodia have been affected by the flooding. 370,000 people have been affected. have been affected. stores have had to close down they have been

that can ultimately defeat al-shabaab. security is linked to political accommodation and reconciliation, which is why partially smol will adopted a federal model of govern nabs nearly ten years. a consensus on which time remains illusive. they failed to translate the federal vision to viable member states. frustrated with a lack of progress at the national level, communities across the country are taking matters to their own hands and are carving out thief come along clan lines. the dual-track policy which lead to distribute u.s. engagement with sub national entity sent the long signal that was promoting sectarian policy at the expense of a federal government. the process of fed rating the country faces three enormous challenges. first, provisional is deeply ambiguous about the shape and future of the federal government of somalia. and division of power. the meaning of federalism is broadly misunderstood by the somali people. many of whom are legitimately nervous about an overly centralized state. it's compounded bit absen

and they served alongside kenya forces to drive al shabaab out of the hometown a year ago.he kenya troops are in the key installations like the airport and have the equipment to hold attackers back but they don't have the local knowledge needed for the much more complex task of managing internal security. and that says the defense minister is the heart of the problem. >> this is a wake-up call for international community and the countries in the region really. the only solution and best solution is to support the samalia government to help fight al shabaab. >> reporter: they are struggling from constant war and camps are everywhere and no way of tracking people in this kind of environment so it's relatively easy for al shabaab to move about undetected and they are trying to control the town but we were warned that members of the islam group are everywhere. unsurprising me the local security services say the solution to defeating al shabaab is to have the training, capacity and equipment so they can take on the enemy. they say that they are the ones that know the language, t

forces stormed the home of a key al-shabaab leader. after a firefight, troops were forced to retreat not knowing if they hit their intended target. al-shabaab is believed to be responsible for the mall attack that killed 67 people. your 11 insta weather plus forecast with meteorologist miri marshall. >> we have been dealing with the heat for the last few days. it will come to an end in the next 24 to 48 hours. just a few showers to the east around middletown and newark. we have remained rain free for most of the day. all of the activity has been to the west. it is firing off showers and storms around cincinnati. firing the low pressure some showers up just outside of chicago. this will be moving toward us within the next 48 hours. we are still under the influence of the warm front. that is why we have been seeing above average temperatures the last few days. temperatures have around 84 downtown and 81 in pikesville. today we hit a high of 86, about 16 degrees about average. we will return to average temperatures within the coming days.

al shabaab must be stopped. the federal government of somalia must increase its capacity to town to -- counter al shabaab, unified a fractured political system, and provide basic services to the somali people. for all this the government of somalia needs our support and much more. our primary interest in somalia is to help the people of somalia build a peaceful nation that is stable, with a stable government , that is able to insure civil society, civil security, and services for its citizens. this leads me to turn to what our policy engagement is in somalia. prior to our recognition of the federal government of somalia, our policy had three primary elements, provide support for african union mission in somalia for c-span.org as it is commonly known and the amisom strategic partner, ethiopia to combat al shabaab and political space -- and provide political space for the government to operate. second, we wanted to respond to the humanitarian crisis and initiates stabilization where possible. third, we wanted to p

ashore in the predawn hours saturday to target a villa south of mogadishu where top leaders of al shabaab were gathered. shortly there after, in libya, elite forces surrounded the vehicle of this man, al libi. he had been indicted in the southern district of new york, wanted by the u.s. for more than a decade for his role in the bombings. he had just pulled up to his house after morning prayers when he was nabbed by the u.s. forces. pentagon press secretary issued this statement. quote, as the result of a u.s. counterterrorism operation, abba anas al libi is currently laufrly detained by the u.s. military. >> i wish he was being tried in guantanamo rather than the southern district of new york. >> libby will be tried in the u.s. and will not be sent to guantanamo bay. he's alleged to have done surveillance on the embassies before the bombings. he hid in britain and iran after the attacks and returned to libya in 2011 during the uprising against gadhafi. the operation in somalia was also designed to capture the mastermind of another more recent east africa attack, that at the mall. the s.e

>> al shabaab is the group that is thought to have committed the attack. they are not known to have fwrups in libya or mali. it is likely that a group working with them had those contacts. at this point you are looking at al shabaab attacking uganda and either op ethiopia as part of the war on terror. >> do these countries become our new front lines for the war on terror? >> well, these countries are excuses basically. the small conflicts that are taking place on the local level allow al qaeda to in fill trait these places. they have reasons to work with al qaeda ap rativeoperatives. over the years, al qaeda has been unable to operate in other countries. it was a reason for al qaeda to persuade somali that kenya was an enemy and deserving of an attack. and the question for the united states is, how successful will al qaeda continue to be at using africa's small wars to hurt u.s. interests? >> what are the u.s. interests in going after them what are our threats doe messically? >> i think there are very little threats at this point. 50 somalis who have u.s.

an al shabaab leader, the network in east africa, linked to al qaeda. a lot of concerns about what this guy was up to. and that he was heavily involved in planning future attacks in east africa and attacks potentially against western interests. that's why they wanted to get him, ashleigh. >> just fascinating developments. thank you for that. >>> as barbara just mentioned, the navy s.e.a.l.s. raid on somalia came on the 20th anniversary on the black hawk down battle in somalia's capital. it's fair to say that ended in complete and total failure. 18 american troops were killed, 500 locals were also killed in that operation. this operation was very different. it lasted only hours instead of two days. and joining us now is james marks. this was so remarkable to hear about this considering that no matter how long ago black hawk down was, it is still fresh and painful in the mind of americas and military members. were you surprised to hear there were boots on the ground instead of an attack? >> not really. it clearly is the way to get your hands on an individ

raid failed to capture a top member of al- shabaab in somalia. more on this, later in the program. egypt was rocked by new killings today. in southern sinai, a suicide car bomber killed three policemen and wounded dozens more, and a drive-by shooting killed six soldiers outside cairo. meanwhile, funerals were held for some of the more than 50 people killed yesterday. they died in clashes between security forces and supporters of ousted president mohammed morsi. two americans and a german researcher will share this year's nobel prize for medicine. they won today for discoveries on how critical chemicals move inside cells-- work that could help treat diabetes and alzheimer's. the americans are james rothman of yale and randy schekman of the university of california at berkeley. schekman recounted the phone call he got this morning. . >> he said this is calling from stockholm and congratulations and when i realized that was it. and i-- hi gone through this in my mind so many times, what i would say. and of course, words escaped me at that moment. and i think all i said was oh my god,

al shabaab must be stopped.capacity to counter al shabaab, unify a fractured political system and provide basic services. for all of this the government of somalia needs are support and much more. our primary interest in somalia is to help the people build a peaceful nation that is stable, with a stable government that is able to ensure civil society, security, and services for citizens. this leads me to turn to what our policy engagement as. prior to our recognition of the federal government, our policy had three primary elements, provide support for african union mission in somalia or amisom as it is commonly known, and a strategic partner to combat al shabaab and provide political space for the government to operate. a second, we wanted to respond to the humanitarian crisis and initiate stabilization where possible. third, we wanted to promote our dual track policy. post transition the three elements of our somali policy have evolved as follows. we continue to support amisom is the primary stabilizing force.

tells the united states to sort out its debt crisis fast and the pentagon reveals what it knows on al shabaabnd which fighters it wants to go after plus. >> and at a farm in spain, people here are accusing the government of sabotaging are you newable energies and putting a tax on the sun. >> reporter: and the cover comes off, a monumentel word by controversial artists in kata. ♪ north korea put it's armed forces on high alert and warning the united states of what it calls a horrible disaster after a giant aircraft care was this korea and the arrival of the uss george washington says america is hostile and let's bring in harry foster who is live from the south korean capital of seoul and bring us up to date on the developments first. >> we should separate what is happening today and what is being reported by the national intelligence service in a regular briefing to the national assembly which also happened today and refers to what has happened in resent weeks or months. what is happening today is the -- it was due to get underway, the military exercises between the united states, south korea

navy seal team has seized a senior leader of al shabaab saying the read is in response to mill tappedgroup's attacntsn a shopping mall. >> the pentagon is ordering most employees back to work about 400,000 workers are expected. >>> president obama is again calling on house republicans to reopen the government. the ut

however, they didn't get their man and they are saying that they will continue to monitor al shabaabctivities and that this attack was a demonstration of how it can exert direct pressure on al shabaab no matter what on somalia. >> reporter: it was retaliatory strike for what happened at the west gate shopping center. how much more do we know about the people or the situation surrounding the attack and siege? >> there is still a lot to come without a doubt stephen but we hear about piecing it together. there was one man that stands out omar neban and he is caught on cctv video and was named along with others by the kenya defense force. now, we know of him. but he is originally from mombasi and he is related to sala-neban who is now dead and he was connected to the attacks on the u.s. embassy in 1998 and also an attack on a hotel in mombassa in 2002. that is lined up with some information we received from our sources on mambassa that neban was, in fact, in a house in mombassa in 2003 when it was raided by antiterrorists police and he got away. now, he has lived it seems in baraway for

one of the men was the top explosives expert for al- shabaab. that is according to another member of the group who spoke to the associated press. earlier this month, u.s. navy seals attempted a raid in somalia in pursuit of another else about -- another al-shabaab operative. they aborted the raid without capturing the intended target. al-shabaab claimed responsibility for the deadly attack on the westgate mall in kenya this past september which killed 67 civilians. all the u.s. does not disclose its drone strikes in somalia, the bureau investigative journalism reports that strikes in the country have happened from three to nine times in the past 60 years, along with anywhere from eight to 14 additional covert actions. in iraq, another wave of attacks resulted in 55 deaths on sunday. iraqi police say the bombs were placed in 11 cars and detonated at different times over a half hour in a coordinated attack. they targeted commercial areas where shia muslims shop. 41 people were killed in that strike. the other 14 died when a suicide bomber drove up

al shabaab. that's a terrorist group that was behind the deadly mall attack in kenya last month. al shabaab says the u.s. raid failed to nab the suspect. despite that, secretary of john kerry in indonesia says the raid sent a message of american resol t resolve to the world. >> we hope this makes clear the united states of america will never stop in its effort to hold those accountable who conduct acts of terror. and those members of al qaeda and other terrorist organizations literally can run, but they can't hide. >> do these raids now put africa in the forefront of our terror fight? national security correspondent jennifer griffin live in washington with the latest on both missions. hi, jennifer. >> hi, eric. fox news learned it was u.s. army delta force operators who captured abu anas al libi. in libya, delta force operators surrounded the vehicle of this man. abu anas al libi, who's now being held onboard a u.s. ship at sea. the top al qaeda operative was indicted in the southern district of

the raid without capturing the intended target on shabaab also claimed responsibility for the deadly attacks on the westgate mall in kenya this past september which killed sixty seven civilians while the united states does not disclose its drone strikes in somalia the bureau of investigative journalism reports that strikes in the country have happened from three to nine times in the past sixty years along with anywhere from eight to fourteen additional covert actions. well to iraq now where yet another wave of attacks resulted in fifty five deaths on sunday iraqi police say that the bombs were placed in eleven cars and then detonated at different times over a half an hour period in a cordon they did attack they targeted commercial areas where shia muslim shop forty one people were killed in that strike the other fourteen died when a suicide bomber drove up to soldiers waiting in line to collect their paychecks at a local bank in north in the northern city of mosul and then he detonated his bomb this is the latest alou of violence to happen just days before prime minister nuri al mali

. >> al-shabaab militants claimed responsibility for the assault, but investigators are responding to leads that some of the weapons may have come from libya and want to find out who the middlemen were. rex as the investigation broadened, we look now at having people in kenya are coping in the aftermath of such an attack. >> a week after the attack ended, people are still trying to come to terms with what happened. bodies are still being recovered from the mall. the search continues for more victims. in a local cafÉ, two survivors discuss their experiences. one of them is prepared to speak on camera but wants to remain nameless. he was waiting for his mother in the westgate center when the attackers opened fire. he managed to flee immediately, but his mother was only rescued hours later. like many, he criticizes the kenyan government's handling of the siege. >> when the government sent troops, in terms of dealing with all of the effects of it, it comes down to the community. the red cross is a private ngo. if it were not for them, it would have been much worse. >> many say the kenyan

the fact that juba land is being dominated by a single allows al-shabaab to recruit from minority clans who feel they are not being represented by local administrations and to some degree al-shabaab is waiting a game in other areas as well waiting to see those political tensions comes to the floor and using that as an effect if recruiting tool to rebuild their ranks. >> thank you for your answers to that question. senator flake thank you for your patience. >> no problem. there a lot of questions i have particularly on federalism and mr. aynte you addressed it just now in your remarks provisional constitution is deeply flawed deeply flawed document that contradicts itself. you referring mostly to the federalism aspects of that? >> senator it's all across but federalism is the most important element where it really contributes and puts member states on a collision course with the federal government in that it gives the division of power between them is not clear in the document as it stands at the moment. it's only provisional when it can be proved. >> you mentioned four things that you t

drone strike this afternoon killed at least two members of the islamist group al shabaab the two men who died were both a somali descent according to the witnesses at the scene they have been driving near. the southern city of ji leave when a missile hit their car one of the men was the top explosive explosives expert for all shabaab that's according to another member of the group who spoke to the associated press earlier this month u.s. navy seals attempted a raid in somalia in pursuit of another all shabaab operative seals ultimately aborted the raid without capturing the intended target on shabaab also claimed responsibility for the deadly attacks on the westgate mall in kenya this past september which killed sixty seven civilians while the united states does not disclose its drone strikes in somalia the vero of investigative journalism reports that strikes in the country have happened from three to nine times in the past sixty years along with anywhere from eight to fourteen additional covert actions. well to iraq now where yet another wave of attacks resulted in fifty five death

navy seals went after a senior al-shabaab leader in a pre-dawn raid. the pentagon would only say there were some casualties and no americans were killed. the shabaab group claimed responsibility for a nairobi shopping mall attack two weeks ago. >>> a pentagon spokesman says no other details are being revealed as of now on that raid. >>> it's day 5 of the government shutdown and there's no end in sight. but hundreds of thousands of federal employees are being told to go back to work. defense secretary chuck hagel says he can legally bring back the department of defense employees. as for the rest of the workers, the house unanimously passed legislation to give furloughed employees pay once the shutdown is over. there is still no deal to restart the government. >>> and we know turn to rochelle ritchie, live with more on the navy game that was held despite the shutdown and how it's affecting annapolis. >> reporter: a lot of people thought this game was going to remain postponed or even cancelled. but a last-minute approval by the department of defense kept

that one was targeting al shabaab. that's the terrorist organization that carried out the attack on the nairobi mall in kenya last month. this operation in somalia was even more daring. navy s.e.a.l.s on an attack craft, a small boat did a beach landing under cover of darkness. they had three smaller vessels with them. they got onto the shore. they were approaching the compound of one of al shabaab's leaders. as they set up around the edges there was a man. they didn't know who he was. he was smoking a cigarette. evidently this man saw the navy s.e.a.l.s there, went casually inside pretending nothing was wrong, alerted all of the al shabaab militants who stormed out of the building opening fire, compromising the mission. suddenly, more people started arriving. the s.e.a.l.s decided it was too complicated. they were overwhelmed. there were civilians. they had to re treat the area and they didn't get their man. >> all right. richard engel with all the news from overseas. thanks. >>> here in this country, day seven of a g

al- libi, and in somalia, they came under heavy gunfire and were forced to retreat without the al-shabaabeader, otherwise known as -- these two waves bring up questions about u.s. counterterrorism efforts. are we seeing a change in policy? why is it so important to capture these men a live and will he be tried in new york? i was joined earlier by a professor of law at howard university, and i started off by asking him his initial thoughts on the raids. >> well, i think you have to look at them separately. the rate in somalia was coordinated with the somali government, and it appears to be done in the law. contrast that with the libyan raid, a number of countries have been denying assisting the u.s. to save face at home, but publicly, libya is saying they did not consent to the rate and were not aware of the rate and they sent in the armed force in order to conduct a kidnapping. if that is true, that is sovereign territory, and i question our ability to conduct an operation in the sovereign territory of another country without their knowledge and consent, so i think they are at two totally

the reaction of al shabaab militants. >>> the next question is how al shabaab will sporespond to this morningts operation. everyone is concerned they there may be a retalt tory strike the we are seeing similar attacks after other operations in the past. we certainly expect to see heighten security operations across mogadushua kenya has named four suspects on the attack last month. neil released footage shows four young been scrambling around with ak-47 rivals in hand. the footage contra ducts earlier government statements that claims between 10 to 15 attackers were involved in the september 21st attack. the militant group claimed responsibility for the 4-day assault and left at least 67 people dead. >> bad weather has brought rescue hope is fading more survivors will be found. 111 african asylum seekers have been confirmed dead. hundreds more are missing. the my grants have spent two days at sea traveling. just 155 people survived they hope to resume the search for more victims. >>> an increase in hornet attacks in northwest china has killed at least 41 people since july you now so se

the other failed to snatch an al shabaab leader in somalia.et's bring in our chief national security correspondent, jim sciutto. he's got the very latest. bold indeed, and very risky. >> no question. both these attacks show the administration's new focus on terror threats emanating in particular from africa. the libya raid connected to an attack that took place there years ago, the 1998 embassy bombings. the somalia raid, however, more forward-looking, driven by u.s. concerns about al shabaab's growing focus on attacks abroad, including targeting u.s. interests in the region, with sophisticated attacks like the one we saw in nairobi. the westgate mall attack in nairobi, kenya, left dozens dead, a luxury mall destroyed and a country terrorized. it is attacks like this, bold, sophisticated and beyond somalia's borders that helped lead the u.s. to target al shabaab on its home territory. it was a daring operation, late friday night, s.e.a.l. team six, the same team that killed osama bin laden, launched from a commercial ship towards shore, aiming

forces looking for the al shabaab -- my apologies. can you fill us in on what happened in that operation? >> reporter: erica, far less certainty in this operation. it was a predawn raid in which u.s. navy s.e.a.l.s hit the beach in southern somalia, launched an intensive attack against a compound of the al shabaab militant organization. al shabaab is the islamist group that carried out that horrific, bloody terrorist attack against a west gate mall in nairobi, kenya, two weeks ago, killing 67 innocent civilians. the problem here, however, is sources tell nbc news, that raid failed to take out al shabaab's top commander, ahmed godan, and so far, u.s. officials have not identified any of the militants who may have been killed. so it appears in their ongoing bomb battle damage assessment that all these details are going to have to be worked out. but it does appear they fell far short of their goal. >> all right, mik, thanks again. >>> we turn now to weather brewing. tropical storm karen, which had been threatening the gulf coast fizzled

it probably was a leader of al shabaab.mebody who was involved in the kenya attacks at the westgate mall or maybe the leader of al shabaab. we are not really sure exactly what happened. they probably came upon something they didn't expect. maybe civilians. maybe they got involved with somebody on the beach that they didn't need to. and then tipped off the soldiers and the militants of al shabaab. it just didn't go off the way we wanted it to. >> bill: unlike black hawk down it was a beach landing. still under darkness. they had a location and they wanted to get in and get the guys. if i'm the commander and i know where the guys are sleeping and i drop a drone on them and they're all dead, so that tell its me they wanted intel from these guys? >> absolutely. this is a high valued target. there is probably a the love things they would like to know. and they were going to do a snatch and grab. take them off to a ship perhaps and do some interviewing and interrogation and get the information that may, you know, tell us more abo