15 years ago, people were saying the same thing about myself and largent and coburn and salmon and shadeggy, when you were there, when that group was there, there was much more willingness to compromise at the 11th hour than there is now and much more party discipline. >> more than needed to compromise. and i think a lot of times i didn't compromise. i mean, ask tom delay, a point where they just stopped whipping me. that said, i was never in a position if a bill didn't pass by date x, there's a good chance the stock market was going to collapse. when we decided not to reopen the federal government, know, we went on "larry king" there were g guys with snowmobiles they went around national park screaming at us. that was pretty much the extent of it. but this is pretty significant. i will say that the people i mentioned, steve largent and lindsey graham and matt salmon, these people would understand. mark sanford would understand what would happen in the case of default, and so i think in that respect we would have never allowed this to come to this point. now, we would have fought like hell