shafer, you've very clearly described 17 egregious violations of the standard of care.on? >> yes. >> murray's defense team will call its own propofol expert, dr. paul white, to the stand. the pressure is growing on chernoff and flanagan to persuasively counter the prosecution's strong case. >> they have absolutely no examples of that. >> well, he presented dr. murray as a non-doctor. less than a lay person. >> right. >> and i think the jury believes all that. we have to bring them back to the issue of causation. >> you've got to get it to be a cardiac arrest that starts this thing. otherwise, you lose mathematically. >> you really honestly think that during cross-examination of shafer he's going to admit that it's a cardiac arrest and we're going to have that argument, that conversation? >> no, he's not. >> i think he's got to admit he doesn't know because he has never studied the effects of -- >> and as soon as i ask him isn't it true you don't know, he's going to say i do know, and here's why i know. this, from the vital cross-examination of dr. shafer. >> one of the

i'm christian shafer. >>> the weather is about to take a turn for the worst. let's look at what's going to happen for us in the next few hours >> it's dlifrnt going to take a turn for the worse. just cloud cover out there right now but through the rest of the evening, maybe a few sprinkles out there. things are dry right now but the radar doesn't pick up on the sprinkles out there because it's a little too small. right now temperatures coming in, in the low 60s and still feeling nice outside. the fact is that we do have the cloud cover and that's why temperatures are going to fall slowly through the evening. low 60s into frederick and baltimore. 60s in york as well. overnight though -- overnight, temperature around 55 degrees. fog in the morning just as it was this morning. and your forecast as we take you hour by hour tomorrow, 56 degrees by 8:00 a.m.. tomorrow we'll start to have somehow ners the -- showers in the forecast. it will become steady rain throughout the day. a high tomorrow around 63 degrees. not as warm as today but temperatures above average >>

shafer resulted in a falling out with flanagan, causing chernoff to move out of flanagan's house. >> their area of expertise. you're asking for trouble. you've got to be smarter than the expert. it's important enough for me and that's why i took it over. you know, i'm fighting the judge any way, fighting the prosecution any way. i'm hoping that it will all pan out. but it may not. >> with his personal liberty clearly at risk, dr. murray has re-evaluated his own relationships, especially with jackson. >> i do not think that he would have had an active intention to do me harm. but i think through his most intense desire to have me there with him, it was inter-winded with a degree of betrayal. >> teach me a way, oh lord and do not deliver me to the will of my adversaries. for false witnesses have risen against me. be of good courage and he should strengthen my heart when i say unto the lord. >> yes. >> they want you to convict dr. murray for the actions of michael jackson. poor conrad murray. everyone is to blame but dr. conrad murray. >> this kind of medical treatment has never been se

shafer. dr. white is the key witness for the defense and got on the stand today to resurrect his testimony yesterday and dr. shafer the key for the prosecution was back on the stand and he had a chance to get a couple of shots including that who gives propose this will to anyone in their bedroom? take a listen. >> if there was such a thing as bedroom based anesthesia the standards would be, the standard guidelines would be considered a minimum. because there's no backup. there's in tolerance for we report. if you have an error you have a mortality. >>reporter: that is what the prosecution has been showing all along, they believe there were a lost errors that led to michael jackson's death. >>shepard: does this change the timeline discuss sod office den? >>reporter: we are following the timeline. right now this afternoon the lawyers will meet with the judge, go over jury instructions and the jury gets tomorrow off and everyone comes back on thursday morning for a 9:00 a.m. when court date when clo

. >> reporter: carla shafer is the director of the streets of hope, a shelter that bounces around from church to church while it looks for a permanent building. it was going to settle last night before neighbors complained and since then it ended up here along a busy road and with a challenging distance to the closest bus stop. while this accident was incredibly unforce nate it may not have been avoidable, the driver was drunk, the police say twice the legal limit but norton was walking down this road from the bus stop on the way to the homeless shelter and you can see there is very little if any room to walk. >> he was very well loved and all of the men were upset when they heard and one was crying inconsolable as well as the staff. >> reporter: norton will be missed if not by his friends in the shelter but by the only family he had left. in baltimore county, brian cubeler abc2 news. >>> wow. some staff at the shelter have express the interest in adopting taco and giving him a home. while the accident was officially ruled by police as pedestrian error rentta was criminally charged by

joyce, rachel, and scott shafer. thank you all very much. [applause] and now we come to the candidates' closing statements. if you have not registered to vote, please do so. we urge everyone to register. it is a right and privilege. the deadline is october 24. if you have moved, you have to register at your new address. we will do these closing statements in reverse alphabetical order, and candidates, each have one minute. >> thank you for the debate. i appreciate all of your attention and concern. as i said early on, we are in a rather serious crisis in the state of california a, reverberating on the look out government. the realignment of social services, health care services, and public safety. for the first time, realigning public safety in the local government causes tremendous cost pressure of the city and county of san francisco. i'm the only candidate with the kind of experience at the local level and state level to address these problems. i am the only individual who is independent, over 23 years, from power brokers in city hall. i

christian shafer, abc 2 news. >>> there's news tonight washington is getting involved. a senate committee is planning a hearing on whether stronger laws are needed to protector children but meanwhile, the mother of victim number one told our news he's been bullied severely. the psychologist counseling that victim says bullying is a concern for abuse victims. >> you wonder what kind of pushback or what kind of reaction and how far that reaction might go in terms of people in the community, will people be angry with you? >> while another allegation already served penn state, this one dates back to the summer of 2000 but we don't know yet it's not clear if jerry sandusky was involved in this. the pattersonville high school community is mourning a loss of one of its students. school leaders sent a letter home with students and it describes the sudden death of a student at the heartford county public schools. the crisis team is involved and stepping into help the student. >>> the state is threatening the company that runs the baltimore grand prix. they own nearly $600,000 in

shafer. >> keller of cardiac activity is what caused the death in this case in your opinion?> that is correct. >> both sides will get what they ought to present their closing arguments. the seven men and five women who will decide if conrad murray should be held responsible for michael jackson's death appeared >> he has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter. he could face up to four years in prison and lose his medical license. >> as you know, breast cancer awareness month means in pink is everywhere you turn. >> an investigation shows all the green you donate does not the were you think. the story is new at 5: does does 30. >> picking up the pieces, the latest on the fire >> live, local, liberty, you are watching wbal tv 11 news in hd. >> as you may be aware, yesterday marked the end of breast cancer awareness month. that is the busiest time and what becomes a fund raising giant. billions of dollars were raised across the country. what's a lot of money. it do you know how your money gets spent. jane miller has more on that story. >> no matter of where you have gone,

steven shafer. >> failure of cardiac activity caused jackson's death? >> that's correct. >> reporter: both sides will get a day off to prepare their closing arguments which will be presented to jurors on thursday morning. the seven men and five women who will decide if conrad murray should be held responsible for michael jackson's death. he has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter. he could face occupy four years in prison if convicted. stefreceiv receive stefani stand top stanton, nbcs news. >>> november so far, we're okay. and i think for the next couple of day, we'll continue on the trend. want to show you a brand new poi fountain that's gone up in georgetown. a beautiful new park opening up and you can see right there, some people out enjoying this today. you may have needed the long sleeves, but with the sunshine it felt quite nice. high temperature did reach temperatures in the upper 50s in most locations, but 61 degrees out there at the airport. so looking if this week. i really think most of this week is going to be very, very nice. re

steefr shafer, a former student and colleague of dr. white. >> a failure of cardiac activity?reporter: both sides get a day off to prepare for closing arguments. the seven men and five women who will decide about if conrad murray should be held responsible for michael jackson's death. murray has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter. if convictedsed, he could face up to four years in prison and lose his medical lie sencense. >>> high school students in prince georges county got a big surprise. a local celebrity today. big name. >> the rapper visited students at central high school. he was there to encourage students to excel in school. he was born and raised in d.c. before moving to maryland to attend high school. he says the fact he was able to speak to students today shows how much hip hop has grown in the district. >> this wasn't even possible when i was in high school. we had no rapper. the thought of anybody walking through that door, a quarterback for the red skins? >> today's a big day for him. his sophomore album, ambition, was released. he's kicking off a tou

shafer's the state's own expert that they can't rule out the possibility that michael jackson injectedhuge. if they define the cause of death, not as who set up the propofol and who left the room, but who administered the fatal doz dose there could be a finding of reasonable doubt as to whether it was michael or dr.~conrad murray. megyn: i know what you're going to say, he should have been there monitoring. you know as well ace do that sometimes jurors ignore the back up arguments. they want to get to the crux of it. who gave him the fatal dose. well that guy said -- the prosecution's guy said i can't rule out that michael jackson released the regulator and the propofol went flowing. if it comes down to that there is some wiggle room. to me there is some drama in this verdict. i'm not sure how it's going to go. >> absolutely there is. i'm not sure either. both sides will argue reasonable doubt. reasonable doubt is not doubt beyond anything. bring your common-sense and i would hope that both sides bring that in. bring your common-sense in that scenario. megyn: wharbg, what do you think,

shafer's testimony there were 17 points in which he was grossly negligent according to the state's expertwill see the max here. >> no matter what the judge does it up to the state prison and the sheriff to impose the actual sentence, if you will in terms of where he will spend it. say he is sentenced to four he will likely do it in county jail. do you think he will be able to take advantage of not going to the state pen. >> if the judge imposes the max and this is true in almost every state of the union, the department of corrections is an entirely different entity than the bench. the judiciary says you have to do four years in prison, that's what i am giving you but the department of corrections says we have another program we think he is eligible on, put him on the ankle bracelet and let him serve his sentence at home. >> we will find that out on tuesday when murray is scheduled to be sentenced. >>> switch gears to these new explosive developments in the child sex abuse case in syracuse against coach fine. espn released secretly recorded conversation between fine's wife and one of the a

steven shafer is doing the work for free.r. white's testimony could end up being the key to this trial's outcome. joining me now is paul henderson and criminal defense attorney mark geragos. you said all along tit is crucil for the defense's theory. >> if you rolled some of your previous tape, i think i predicted that this is exactly what walgren was going to ask and i think the answers that he got were not what the defense wanted to hear. >> because why? >> there's two problems with this from the defense standpoint, number one, it absolutely puts the death nell in the idea that there's going to be any argument about gross negligence. their own expert says this guy was not living up to the standard of care. number two, in the biggest problem here i think from the defense standpoint, is this idea that he left a syringe there that he had prepared. so even if it's michael jackson, even under the defense theory of michael jackson is self-administering, the problem is that you would never leave a syringe there for somebody to poss

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anthony shafer who knows all about iran, pakistan, afghanistan, and their relations with terrorist groups. let's start on iran, tony, do we really have the ability to know what iran's capabilities are and how suspicious should we be considering our obvious inability to know what iraq's possible capabilities were before we invaded that country? >> well, i think in this case, we've been able to trace the other elements, other countries involved. the pakistanis, the chinese, the russians. they've all had a role to play in helping move things down the road. and i think we have a better picture of that. with that said, the iaea and its report today i think is very clearly indicating that there's a -- there's evidence of a nuclear program. and this is what worries me. you know, i work this issue back in the '90s regarding the north koreans. and i'm seeing the exact same thing now watching in slow motion the north koreans develop a we, same thing here with the iranians. i still see -- i do believe they have a credible program that the weapons if they're not ready to go, they've been designed --

to answer that, we bring in lieutenant colonel anthony shafer from the center for advanced studies, and atlantic correspondent, jeffrey goldberg, who was co-author of "the ally from hell," a cover story on pakistan that ran in both the "atlantic" movie and the "national journal." tony, how big a deal is this? >> this is big by the fact this is a continuation of the same issues we've been dealing with for the past sen years. i don't believe for a minute that nato fired without provocation on this area. the bottom line is this. we are both daddy warbucks, we pay these bills for these, $2 billion a year to the pakistani army. at the same time, we're the bogeyman. what you're seeing here, dylan, is that effect. you're seeing the manipulation of the facts, by both sides, frankly. but the bottom line is this is simply one more battle in the long-running issues between the paks and us. and frankly the bottom line is the pakistanis still aren't being helpful and that's what this is really all about. >> how much of a disruption, jeffrey, would this be to our ability to even to continue to prosec

. >> i want you to listen to lieutenant colonel shafer who was talking about the war. this was tony yesterday. >> there's no real war here. we're actually feeding into this as a process of not allowing us then to focus on the larger regional issues, which is really what we should be looking at. we've got to understand what our interests are. are our interests in forming and continuing the karzai government, which is largely corrupt? or is it to focus on what's necessary to achieve victory, which is looking against -- taking action against terrorist groups? >> and it wasn't clear which war he was referring to. he was talking about the war in afghanistan. your thoughts? >> well, he's right that we ought to be focusing on the largest regional issue. the largest regional issue is that the iranian -- the threat of an iran with nuclear weapons. the president has committed to withdraw our troops from afghanistan by 2014. we need to move as quickly as we can. it is a difficult relationship we have with the pakistanis, but we should be using every amount of leverage that we can

shafer said it's like leaving a baby on a countertop alone.oing to roll off the countertop. >> what if they find this to be negligent? >> don't forget. >> couldn't they use that to find him not guilty? >> he has a higher standard. a higher standard of a doctor. you are supposed to have that standard of care. and i think the prosecution is going to be resonating in their mind about, you know, wait a second, you wouldn't leave a baby on the top of a plane that they could roll off and you wouldn't leave a child with propofol. an addict with propofol. megyn: don't we tend to like our doctors and hold them you have on a pedestal? >> generally we do like them except when they leave us in their waiting rooms for two hours for the privilege to see them. that aside, i think they like this particular doctor. i think you had five character witnesses to say what a wonderful man he was. how he gives to the poor. i started to believe it. other than this gross deviation. incompetent not as a heart doctor, but incompetent in maintaining michael jackson's heal

shafer of the prosecution, he's probably right. but dr. white had a point.in and of itself, could lead to an acquittal. >> the fact he was held in contempt of court. >> out the presence of the jury. >> still, that's highly unusual, isn't it? >> sure. for an expert witness to be fined $1,000. the judge got to the point where he thought dr. white was intentionally violating his order. and in essence, testifying about private conversations that he had be dr. murray. why? presumably in an effort to introduce conversations that are not admissible in this case. but for the judge to believe it's gotten so bad that he's doing it on purpose, in order to fine him, really tells you something. and i think there's this tension in the courtroom over dr. white shows you how important his testimony is. >> in a few hours, we'll find out if dr. murray will take the stand. dan, thank you. >>> now, to the latest in the search for baby lisa. nearly a month after she went missing, her parents are shaking up their legal team. and we have an exclusive look at an attempt to bring no

steven shafer for the prosecution, dr. paul white for the defense. white's on the stand right now.hese two men have known each other for 30 years, and they're now basically testifying against each other in this case. we're getting towards the end. the judge has shown some frustration the last couple of days. we're told by our producer inside the jury is showing more frustration, not nearly as focused as they were in the past. many of them seem to be glazed over, not even taking notes any longer. and as the judge notes, the jury's basically ready for this. so there's a chance this could all wrap today which means once rebuttal witnesses are done that the judge is expected, if it does wrap today, to give the attorneys tomorrow to prepare which means closing arguments could, want to underline could, come on thursday. right now everybody just waiting for this witness, dr. paul white, who was the star witness for the defense who had a tough day yesterday. the prosecution really cross-of examining him very tough. we expect to hear, though, once he's done, jon, whether or not dr. murray w

shafer's words, i wrote this down, i thought it was awesome, that a person from five feet away who isn'te was about to live. you've got to monitor somebody. >> i would use white the defense witness who said absolutely not, he would never give propofol in a room like that. megyn: lis, mark thank you so much. see you tomorrow when closing begins. the beebs faces accusations he is having a 20-year-old child wita child with a 20-year-old woman. that is coming up. what's in the mail? well, it just might surprise you. because this is how people and business connect. feeling safe and secure that important letters and information don't get lost in thin air. or disappear with a click. but are delivered. from person to person. and, sometimes, even face to face. have a great day. you too. for some of the best ways to connect and protect... it's all in the mail. learn more at usps.com/mail. >>megyn: teen girls are on age that justin bieber is a father. a defendant-year-old woman slapping him with a suit saying he is the father of the three-month-old child. the woman has filed a court paper demand he

stephen shafer, testifies the only scenario that fits is that murray hooked jackson up to a slow propofol didn't notice he stopped breathing. day 18. the defense puts murray's former patients on the stand to praise murray. he listens in tears. day 20. the so-called father of propofol, dr. paul white, testifies for the defense. he supports the theory jackson gave himself the fatal dose, unaware it would kill him. >> so you think it was a self-injection of propofol near the hour of between 11:30 and 12:00 that did it? >> in my opinion, yes. >> day 21. murray takes a hit when prosecutors press dr. white about murray's failure to tell paramedics he gave jackson propofol. >> it was obviously loafoverloo. >> not obviously. it could also be a lie, correct? correct? that's another option? >> if you say so, i guess, yeah. >> that's another option, correct? >> it's an option, yes. >> reporter: that same day on cross-examination, prosecutors get white to admit he believeds murray drew up the syringe of propofol and left it in the bedroom, accessible to jackson. a lot for the jury to consider as it d

steven shafer, anesthesiologist making that point. that seemed to me, and i was watching it on and off, as certainly one of the most damn be pieces of evidence against conrad murray. >> he basically said this was a totally preventable death. even at the point where the medicine had been given. maybe a dose that was too much had been given. even if you got all the way up to that point, he was making this the case, this was still preventable if someone had been there. if someone was actually monitoring the patient in this case, michael jackson. what happenes with propofol, because it suppresses your drive it breath on your own, as he was saying, simply opening up the airway, letting the medication obviously wear off, giving oxygen, supplemental oxygen if necessary. but pretty simple measures, wolf, i think is the point he was making. >> and if someone is taking propofol, you never leave that patient totally unmonitored as he apparently did. >> yeah. that is very basic in people trained to use this medication. which, by the way, there a