and griffin handed over to i believe it was phil shaffer at that time. and we then proceeded to sit in the viewing room for the remainder of the mission and watch our new flight directors now apollo, carry over into the skylab program. that was the ending of telephone program for us. >> it wasn't really the ending of the program for you though, because by now you had moved on into management and it was the end of your flight direction. >> yeah. >> but on the other hand, there were still flights to be flown and spacecraft to be worked with. you just mentioned a couple of them. skylab, for one. >> skylab was -- it was -- people say gene kranz, you really can't believe what you're saying. but skylab was as exciting to me as apollo ever was. this was -- skylab to me was a different type of focus. focus as a leader and focus as a team. where we had -- the apollo missions were all short, on the order of ten days or so. and it's one thing to hold a team together and do all the right things, keep the quality for ten days, even though it is a very intense. it is

christian shaffer, abc2 news. >>> for up to the minute updates, he has been tweeting testimony, we havetaken the tweets and built a timeline of everything happening inside the courtroom on our website, abc2news.com/loves murder. >>> in health alert, the safety of obesity drug call conext is a is questioned by the fda. administration is askinged a advisory pan told look at whether the benefits outweigh risks of birth defects and heart problems. panel of outside experts will review the drug next week. >>> military positions have been told to look at new options to treat soldiers experiencing pain. decision is an effort to head off drug dependence on painkillers and try chiropractic treatment, massage and acupuncture. u.s. flu season is off to the latest start in decades. up until this month, there weren't enough cases to say flu season started. it usually starts in december or january at the latest. the centers for disease control and prevention say the vaccine seems to be well matched to the common flu stream that's making the rounds. abc2news.com is the place for the health news you nee

so phil shaffer was given the responsibility to come up with techniques to check our spacecraft attitudes for maneuvers and those kind of things using only the sun, earth and moon and to continue to refine the techniques of aligning the navigation system on-board the lunar module once we did have to shut it down. i took my team offline and tried to figure out ways to cut down the return trip time because john aaron said there's no way we're going to make five days with the power in the lunar module. we got to cut it down to at least four days. maybe three and a half. so i now had the team split up and moving in several different directions. i had one team working power profiles. i had another group of people that was working navigation techniques. i had a third one that was integrating all the pieces we need. my team picked up the responsibility to figure out a data to -- way to cut a day off the return trip time and we set up formal tag-in ties. we set up working areas down in the control room proper. and it was amazing how literally presidents of corporations would respond to these 26,

us is rampant in the highest ranks joining me to discuss it is retired lieutenant colonel anthony shaffer senior fellow for the center for advanced defense studies and empath america also author of the book operation dark heart tony thanks so much for joining us tonight and i mean i know where you stand i know that you support more use of special operations right of smaller more targeted more per site projects or operations out there but do you think that there needs to be. more room for william mcraven fratto mike raven you know to do this without necessarily going through off the channels no i am very satisfied that the oversight currently in place is necessary for the very reason you brought up. colonel davis and his record points out that without proper oversight officers will tend to do the wrong thing at least at this point in time so we've got to consider the worst case scenario the second thing to consider is that we have a lot of regional commanders who already are engaging in a number of flight world special operations activities we want to make sure those things are coordinated

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fascism tour new calls for aggression against iran and republicans want to arm the syrian rebels tony shaffer and reese final join us then one congressional candidate is riding the anti-social wave to take on the mar smith he's also an oath keeper and a former sheriff so we're going to speak to richard mack and fifty years ago today the first american orbited the earth we're going to talk about where space exploration is headed next and all that and more food and including a dose of happy hour but first take a look what the mainstream media has decided to miss. it so was another weekend full of the political horse race that is an election year and so was another monday morning of the mainstream media obsessing over that he said she said between rick santorum and mitt romney. you look at this on the left column there where it stands right now and you can see rick santorum eight points ahead of mitt romney a weak performance by romney could ensure an upset in michigan and same torm get on the run the skin obviously romney is fighting very hard there and has dumped millions worth of negative ads

discuss on this president's day monday join me to discuss it is retired lieutenant colonel anthony shaffer senior fellow for the center for advanced defense studies and packed america he's also author of the book operation dark heart and we have bruce fein former deputy attorney general under president ronald reagan and chairman of the american freedom agenda john i thank you both for joining us tonight now ok we'll continue on first i just want to get your take in terms of ron paul in terms of veterans that support him marching in washington today do you think that that means that we should really start taking notice of that should cause some reflection when you have the candid that perhaps is the most anti-war right calling for all of our aggression to stop and he's the one that has so much support from the troops. well i don't think it's the end of aggression per se i think it's focusing on what we need to do as a as a country i'm a reagan republican and one of the things notable i like to believe as ronald reagan understood to not get is bogged down in large land conflicts. lebanon was

and we have next in the sound off and instead of i read it alice speak to tony shaffer about this damning unclassified report from the atlantic colonel daniel day state. ten thirty pm in moscow these iraqi headlines russia's foreign minister voices fears that a repeat of the libyan scenario would come to pass in syria sergey lavrov says a number of alleged incidents could be used as a pretext to justify foreign intervention against the regime in damascus. russia's military predicts the west might decide on a strike against iran before the summer anti-riot into rhetoric intensified after israel accuse the islamic republic of being behind monday's attacks on diplomatic personnel and today's blasts in bangkok. a fresh wave of downgrades sweeps across the struggling euro zone six nations get their debt ratings cut by moody's all this while greece faces further bailout hurdles from the e.u. despite its latest harsh austerity plan that public outrage and mass riot. part two of the alone a show coming up stay with us. hi guys it's time for you said it i read it right take time to respond to my b

christian shaffer explains what happened today. >> today and where they go from here. >> reporter: oneof huguely's attorney was sick, but they did get to some testimony today. there was testimony today, jurors watched vid row from yeardly love, and george huguely's favorite bar. the video taken 24 hours before her death shows her holding hands and talking with huguely. scott goodman says it breaks the prosecution's narrative but shouldn't hurt their case. >> the common wealth will say that meant nothing. the first opportunity he had to be alone with yeardly love, he killed her. >> reporter: huguely's defense attorneying are attempting to show may 2nd, huguely went to her apartment to talk with her. common wealth attorneying a that once he broke through the door, he set a chain of events that led to her death and is enough to bring a conviction on the chag of fist degree murder. >> they have to argue any impromer in at the present time to commit larssey or assault happened after he got in to the room. because of all the delays , there is an un usual saturday session for george huguely's

christian shaffer tells us the tapes along with pictures of love were hard for the jury to see. >> todayot our first look at the bedroom, george huguely kicked in to get in to the bedroom. we heard the chilling tape of what they called his confession. investigators spent hours on the stand, going through photographs of and evidence taken from yeardly love's apartment after her death. including this, her bedroom door, it was unwrapped, a dinner plate size hole, visible, prosecutors say george huguely kicked it in to get in du1w[çt Ñwant t hour long taped interview played for the jurors today. huguely said it was straightly to go in there and talk to her. i should not have gone there when i was drinking. prosecutors say he did more than talk, he assaulted love and left, detective reed informed huguely in the interview that love had died, his response, sobs, repeated disbelief that she was dead and comments such as quote, i never did anything that could do that to her, i refuse to believe that she is dead. >> he believes it now as he sits on trial potentially facing life in prison. 'jp !w÷s

the governor spoke to bob shaffer and talked about a number of topics and shared his thoughts on the republican presidential campaign. >> i think the number one issue is whether or not our economy is getting better. >> reporter: governor also answered questions about gas prices after this. and newt gingrich's claim that he could bring them down to $2.50. o'malley says republicans are bringing up gas prices now to take away from the improving economy with president obama. >>> it's just two days until the michigan primary and candidates are working hard. >> reporter: for these conservative christians their faith has a heavy influence in their politics. gunther is facing the race closely. rick santorum is his candidate. >> he stands for family value. >> reporter: santorum appeal helps push him to the top of the polls in michigan. mitt romney who was once the favorite in his home state, now finds himself struggling to connect with michigan's conservative voters. charles mercer says he c annot -- >> reporter: the former massachusetts governor shrugs off criticism that he's out of touch wi

you can follow our christian shaffer, who is covering the trial on twitter for up to the minute information from the courtroom. >>> a man is locked up accused of attempting to run a police officer over. leon spry saturday morning, officers fired at spry after he drove towards one of them following a scuffle. he is charged with attempted murderer and assault. >>> baltimore city police are investigating a shooting, police were called to darien road in northeast baltimore around 2:30 sunday morning. after the search, they found 27 year-old kendall in the 5900 block of lock lead road. >>> a cab driver is recovering after being stabbed. deputies say 53 year-old bob donnelly was asked to take a man to mountain green road when he was attacked. abc taxi cab is looking to improve driver safety and adding security walls in the cab. they want credit card machines and no longer going to accept cash. police are looking for the suspect. ♪ ♪ the snow is snowin' ♪ the wind is blowin' ♪ but i can weather the storm ♪ what do i care how much it may storm? ♪ ♪ ♪ i've got my love to keep me warm ♪ ♪ mid grade d

complete coverage, go to abc2news.com, it's the first item under featured stories and follow christian shaffer in charlottesville. >>> a trial date set for jerry sandusky the former penn state assistant coach accused of a sex abuse scandal involving young boys. he will face a judge for 52 criminal counts related to allegation of sexual conduct. the judge did not immediately rule on sandusky's request to see his grandchildren, or from prosecutors for sandusky's to have strict limits on his movement. >>> stephanie rawlings blake will deliver the third state of the city address. follow the remarks on twitter at mayor, srb. speaking to the council chamber at city hall. the remarks begin at 2:30. >>> mayor expected to finalize agreement with operator of the grand prix this week. in a statement friday , the mayor said the city would announce turns of a five year deal on wednesday. rawlings blake has not said who the city is negotiating with to operate the racing festival. they terminated contract with racing development after they failed the pay 1.5 million dollars they ode to the city. >>> time for

. >> shaffer is in charlottesville for the trial. follow this on line by going to abc2news.com, slide down in to the slide show, one of the stories down, coverage of the trial, what we have here is a timeline of events, also new stories and tweets as they are available for you, we have all this available at abc2news.com, keeping you up to date on a story that will likely garner local and national attention and we are there for you every step of the way. that's the latest on day two. back in to the studio with meagan. >>> the trial of julius henson with continue. the aid of ehrlich is accused of being behind the robocalls that happened in 2010. they were used to suppress black voter turnout, telling supporters that they didn't need to vote bus o'malley won the election. henson doesn't believe the calls were illegal. the trial resumes today. >>> a woman pled guilty to first degree murder for arranging the death of a dentist to cover up theft from him. hickman entered a plea in 2006, albert row was stabbed 39 times and beaten in his den

we set up a page on the trial and following christian shaffer, he will be updating everything that happens his twitter accounts. >>> a pennsylvania judge expected to rule today on whether or not former assistant coach, jerry sandusky can see v his grand kids. the judge íwp(2 allow him to visit his grand kids. sandusky has been under house arrest since december. >>> do people have the right to record police, an argument we heard in federal court. linda so is here where all that stems from. >> in a few hours, the aclu will be in court to bring a lawsuit against the baltimore city police department. the organization is suing on behalf of christopher sharp. sharp was at the prakness and used the cell phone to record police arresting his friend. police stopped him and demanded he turnover the cell phone. when he refused officers deleted the video and other videos he had on the phone including several of his young son. the commissioner will ask the judge to dismiss the case. a policy allows citizens to videotape officers as long as the citizen is not violating law, which in this case police arg

christian shaffer joins us with more on the tape and reaction from huguely , the love family and the jury. >> reporter: jurors heard the interview with george lasted more than an hour, with detectives from the police department. it wasn't until 45 minutes in to the tape that those ]çthat the detective asked george why he went to the apartment. he said he wanted to talk. he broke through the locked bedroom door and assaulted her. in the interview huguely said i never struck her or like hit her in the face. later he said we were like wrestling and i threw her down and told her to go to the bed and i will talk to you later. all he could see was love had a bloody nose. he said injuries on his hand and leg were from lacrosse. detective reed said i have to tell you something, she is dead, you killed her, george. inside the courtroom, love's sister began to cry. huguely reacetd with disbelief. there is no way she is dead, there is no way she is dead he said over and over again. you can hear him start to sob. at the end of the tape he said i did not kill her. coming up at 6:00, we will talk

go to abc2news.com, the first item under featured stories on the web page and follow our christian shaffer, in the courtroom in charlottesville and will be tweeting about the event, everything that happens in the courtroom. if you want information, those are two sources. >>> major stephanie rawlings blake will deliver the state of the city address starting at 2:30, it will be live streamed on the website, it will be tweeted via the mayor's twitter feed. mayor srb is where you can finds wit the hash tag stay to the city. an agreement with a new operator of the grand prix, the terms of the five year deal will be released on wednesday. rawlings blake has not said who the city will be nee negotiating with. they failed to pay 1.5 million dollars it owed to the city. >>> breaking news, pittsburgh area, live pictures of the fire at the mystic mountain ski lodge. investigators say a worker in side the lodge made the first call around 8:00 last night, that fire is still burning. at the peak, 150 firefighters on the scene as well as pennsylvania state police and medics, one firefighter was treated f

to abc2news.com, the first item under the featured stories and follow christian shaffer in charlottesvilleind him on twitter for up to the win information on what is happening in the courtroom. >>> a harford cab driver is recovering after he was stabbed and robbed over the weekend. deputies say 53-year-old bob donnelly was taking a customer to fountain green road in crescent mill drive and attacked. it happened saturday morning. the owner of abc taxi cab says they are beefing up the security. >> we have a worse job than police officers, at least they are harmed. we have nothing. -- armed. we have nothing. >> donnelly was stabbed in the upper torso and taken to shock trauma in serious condition. police are searching for the suspect. the owner plans to install security walls in the cab and credit card machines, that means no money for robbers. >>> coming up today, more talk about the same sex marriage bill in annapolis. starting with a rally in favor of the legislation, people will lobly lawmakers. two committees and the house heard arguments on the bill in to the evening friday. >>> also to

. >>> for up to the minute updates, following christian shaffer, he is covering the trial, tweeting the latest developments. we have built a timeline of everything regarding the trial happening inside of the courtroom. on our website at abc2news.com/love murder. >>> fans from around the world are visiting houston's grave site. crowds gathered south of new jersey stints singer was laid to rest -- since the singer was laid to rest sunday next to her father. >>> investigators awaiting toxicology reports for the cause of death. lab results could take up to 8 weeks to finalize. >>> pretty disturbing story to tell you about. >> michigan this morning, 9- month-old baby boy is dead after he was shot and killed while sleeping in his crib. police in detroit say there was a drive by shooting yesterday morning, two men opened fire in the middle of the street hitting the front of the house in the cross fire. police say after the shooting -- [overlapping speakers] -- >> i'm tired of burying young folks. it doesn't make any sense. >> police say after shooting on the side of thousand, the gunman drove

small businesses like shaffer's produce in cleveland are finding it harder and harder to fill the delivery truck. >> we're doing everything we can to hold, just to be honest with you. >> reporter: and whether you blame intentions in iran or wall street speculators for driving up the price of oil -- >> there's nothing worse than rising gasoline energy prices. >> reporter: rising they are, the average price has soared from $3.25 to $3.67 since december. economists say if the price tops $4 a gallon and stays there, americans will be forced to pull back. >> if we have to spend more on gasoline, that means we have less to spend on everything else. >> reporter: and when that happens, the chief economists say it could cause a cascading effect on the economy. impacting retail stores, jobs and nonprofits alike. david. >> our thanks to you tonight. >>> next to the wild and windy weather whipping across much of the east this morning. look at the images coming. these pictures from raleigh, north carolina. new york, 65 miles per hour. boston, 54. causes delays at logan airport. cape cod, massachusetts,

and whistleblowers and speak to two of them themselves peter van buren and lieutenant colonel tony shaffer tonight and i know you're going to be talking about tensions with iran well we actually we scratch that story about tensions with iran because this investigation about whistleblowers and about coming up and we just thought it was more important for the day because this is something that we constantly on here on this program from bradley manning to thomas drake to now lieutenant colonel daniel davis well that's ok because we spent a lot of time covering that story a lot to look forward to your show coming up next that's going to do it for the news for more of the stories we covered you can head on over to our t. dot com slash usa and you can check out our youtube page it's youtube dot com slash r t america you can also follow me on twitter at liz wahl the alona show is coming up in just half an hour we'll see you right back here at seven and what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through get through to be made. no one. with the global

for i phone really enjoyed the guests on the show i heard knowing prince and tony shaffer on other shows they were excellent as usual keep up the good work so for us we just like to say welcome to the live show community and glad that you found us and for those of you who are fans of the show make sure that you download the r.t. app unlike most networks r t streams all of its programs live so you can watch us anywhere on your smartphone so spread the word of my rantings today i'll be back with more as usual next week. hey business owners out there the f.b.i. wants you to join in on the fight against terrorism and don't worry they have some really friendly tips to help you spot the terrorists from your normal customers do you own a coffee shop or perhaps a newsstand if so you should be wary of people paying in cash that's right people who pay for small purchases in cash like coffee or gum apparently that's a big red flag big time now of course those customers could just be using cash to pay for small items because it doesn't really make sense to take out your card for a dollar purchase or

lose the battle for the hearts and minds of the iraqi people and retired lieutenant colonel anthony shaffer senior fellow for the center for advanced defense studies and packed america he's also the author of the book operation dark heart additionally pentagon and military officials claim it two years ago while he was stationed in joe i'm sorry this is the quote that is going to be later i just kept going are you guys thank you for joining both and both of you have you know i can hear you can you hear me tony. tony can you hear us tonight are you think we're working out audio they say here with tony that peter you and tony both of you have had to deal with the consequences of speaking out right and you wrote a book about this and you had a blog where you linked to a wiki leaks piece and they went after him with full force do you think that lieutenant colonel davis should have seen this coming that he should have expected and i asked him two days ago i had a feeling that's what happened to you but at this point so we just get used to it it's very sad to say that yes lieutenant colonel davis

and we have next in the sound off and inside of i read it and we'll speak with you so tony shaffer about there's a damning unclassified report from time to colonel daniel day states in. the field stories on all seed time troop rises of tel aviv accuses iran of being behind the times targeting israeli on this is in georgia in india two people were injured in a comparable blast in new delhi while in tbilisi a device was discovered before it went all. hundred ounce and regrets the arab league winding down its observers work in syria and stresses a proposed peacekeeping mission can be deployed only once the government and opposition forces agree to a cease fire. russell is relieved of the greek parliament promises a new austerity bill demanded by the us and i meant to secure another one hundred thirty billion bailout described serious public opposition in the writing of the relief it's likely to be short lived i think your appliances continues with rating agency moody's downgraded nine influenced by some. as the headline that makes this second part of the i know the should stay with us. mean

. >> the number one thing staffers would like to say on the 30th anniversary is paul shaffer -- >> 3 decades of david letterman and how he marked a milestone. good morning, washington continues. >> live and in hd, this is "good morning washington," on your side. >> wake up on this thursday, february 2. >> glad to be with you this morning, will it be an early spring or six more weeks of winter? all eyes are on the tiny town of punxsutawney, pa. buried in a little more than one hour, punxsutawney phil will emerge to make it officials. >> look at that party. >> and they start bright and early. >> they started last night. we go to adam caskey with the first check of today's forecast. >> we have potomac phil. we have some areas of rain this morning alike yesterday. we will start the day dampen clear out into sunshine this afternoon. you can see areas of rain right along 66 all the way from front royal east to the beltway and in southern maryland. 49 degrees in the district and 46 in leesburg and now 50 in culpeper. some rain through about 11:00 a.m. and the sky will clear this afternoon.

right now, ann at wells fargo advantage funds, also joining the conversation is ryan dietrich, at shaffers investment research. you both have been positive on this market. but does the activity in athens and today's sell-off give you pause? maybe do you become a little less bullish right now or buy into this dip? >> what makes me a little bit bullish is just that expectations have risen over the last five weeks. so we expected volatility to continue. we knew that there was still a lot of uncertainty in the marketplace, that we didn't think was all resolved. today we're just seeing another example of that. >> ryan, i guess you could argue this market was overbought to begin with. we were due for some kind of a move. but is this a one-day wonder in your view or is there more down side to come? >> no, bill, there could be a little more down side. but look at the s&p, we peaked yesterday right at the last summer high. so it made sense. this is the best start to a year in over two decades. we've had a good rally. we look at the market on expectations. expectations are higher, as ann just said.

tony shaffer of the center for advanced defense study says quote it is our only real and best oppositionm the opposition. there is a template for it we did it in bosnia and in afghanistan. the academic, dr. joseph olmert agreed and said we should send weapons through turkey and jordan that will help us control where they go and what they are used for. the think tank michael singh was more circle couple specht. there is no one solution. we need overall strategy possibly arming the opposition. as well as thinking about how to bring down president assad, quote, we have to think about what will come after assad and how we can help to shape it. they all agree on, shep, is that there are no easy answers. >> shepard: a look to the history books on arming oppositions might be a worthwhile activity at the moment. jonathan, thanks so much. more than 160 prisoners once locked up at guantanamo bay have turned back to terror. that's according to a report from house republicans slamming the release of hundreds of detainees. it blames both the bush administration and the obama administration for bowing

but not everyone is convinced, including howard shaffer.r of the harvard medical school division on addiction and the man the gambling industry loves to quote. >> your position is, machines are not addictive, that machines, inanimate objects, are not addictive? >> machines didn't make me do it. if slot machines caused addiction, then most people who played slot machines would develop addiction. and it's the opposite. >> but at one point, you said slot machines were the crack cocaine of gambling. >> i did say that. >> and how does that square with what you're telling me today? >> not everybody who uses crack cocaine becomes addicted. >> yeah, but nobody's gonna sit here and try to tell me crack cocaine isn't addictive. and if this is like crack cocaine, the conclusion is that it's addictive. >> i don't come to the same conclusion... >> how could you not? >> because the majority of people that have used cocaine have not developed cocaine addiction. only a small minority have. and the same would be true with gambling. >> the problem is that th

lieutenant colonel anthony shaffer senior fellow at the center for advanced studies led the black ops team in afghanistan. aaron david miller public policy fellow at the woodrow wilson international center who advised six different secretaries of state on arab/israeli negotiations. we assume this is clearly a diplomatic challenge for the moment, a rather intense one and perhaps nerve-racking but where would you begin your diplomacy today understanding the leverage that china would hold in iran, understanding some of the leverage the united states could have in israel, to simply cool this off a little bit? hard to do that, dylan. given the gaps that exist between the united states and iran and the fundamental mistrust collected over a period of the last 40 or 50 years. i mean, there are certain realities. the united states does not control the world. we basically have imposed as tough sanctions as we've imposed on any nation. you've got cyber attacks. you have assassinations, designed, presumably, others are carrying them out. to delay or retard the iranian nuclear program. but the rea

jenna: for more we're joined by lieutenant colonel tony shaffer, retired from the u.s.and at the center for at advances studies and author of "operation dark heart". we're leaving out a key story part of this story and i will read from the "wall street journal" about this. the description of koran. these books, according to some u.s. officials contained extremist literature and clandestine communications between prisoners. they were using them to community between each other inside the prison. >> absolutely. jenna: if that is the case, this isn't a holy book, isn't it? is it enemy propaganda? what are you supposed to do with it? what do you think?. >> it is intelligence information. catherine herridge and i were speaking same thing. this goes on in guantanamo. this was mistake by a very tired army. these koran were of intelligence value. let set aside religious value caused by destruction. we have document exploitation these things should have been into the larger picture and looked at. the idea someone said get rid of these things because they're trash is insane from t

i'm joined by tony shaffer, a retired army lieutenant.ght basically of someone stepping in between the chaplin and his congregation at a mass and saying excuse me, we are going to pull that letter from the mass, we don't want you to read that le letter to the people. how can they do that. >> they can't. the catholic priests were having problems with "don't ask don't tell." i really see this as not an army issue. i don't think this is the army's doing. one ever the seven values in the army is respect. so this is one of those things that i think the army is trying its best but i do believe there is outside influence coming down hard on it. and frankly, let me be blunt here, this is socialism. this is where you have the state inch seeding in such a way that they don't want a certain doctrine within its religion preaching preached to its flock. if it went to court they would lose hands down on it. martha: the president is the commander and chief of the armed forcers and one of the lines that was in this letter basically said, we cannot, we wi