shaffer: can they follow you, colonel? another vehicle checked out, but we couldn't see them. of boulevard in the alley north of 30th. a tan-colored vehicle along .... building... go get him. there he is! ( yelling ) show your hands! show your hands! let me see your hands. you give up? yes! shaffer: we have this one under control. keep the perimeter up. we still have one over here. irwin: turn around, face the fence. where's your buddy at? where's your buddy? i don't got no buddy. where's the guy in the orange coat? the dude came through the alley he said, "you better run." yeah, right. please don't let that dog get me. his buddy's got to be right around here with him. oh, ( bleep ) sit down. they suspected one stolen car. they got out got into another car possibly stolen. got out of that car. possibly got into a third car or they were just with the other group that was allegedly stripping a car at this time from what the copter's saying. and we've got one apprehension on the subjects. we've still got three out. we've got

is colonel tony shaffer. he's a senior at the center for advanced defense studies. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> i want to talk about chechnya at this point and their ties to the taliban. it was in fact the taliban that was -- when they were in power, the only government to recognize the chechnya's independence. so there have been ties that the united states has been looking into in this region of the country. >> absolutely. i think we have to look deeper at all the different relationships behind the scenes. the seven degrees of kevin bacon if you will. look at who is talking to who and who has a motive. as congressman king just said, we didn't look really in this area. frankly, we probably should have. they used a pipeline, the asylum pipeline to actually allow these people to get in. now, we need to figure out, were they sent in? was it a preexisting bad act planned? or was he radicalized, the older brother radicalized once he got here? either way, we had to look at this. because al qaeda and the affiliates are going to look at this as a

priest in question father greg shaffer who has upheld catholic church teaching by saying that homosexual acts are sinful. apparently that statement disqualifies the priest in the eyes of those students. university's office of diversity and inclusion apparently reviewing the case. with us now fox news analyst sally cohen. and you say? >> and i and george washington university alone if you would like can i do the fight song for you later. >> you went to this school. >> did i. >> bill: is that a secular liberal campus. >> private university. nonreligious university. jewish student groups and catholic. look, here is what i think. i support the right of the preach tore say what he said and i support the right of the students to say what they're saying. it's really difficult time in general for the church right now. most of the catholic lady and a lot of the leaders are evolving on issues of gay rights in the same way that the rest of the country is. >> bill: that doesn't matter is the church teaching is the church teaching and father shaffer who i don't know i invited on the program he didn't

chief shaffer, there is another debate, a libber tarian debate.e have too much surveillance, that served us well in boston, new york city you know well, there are 3,000 cameras alone in lower manhattan, another 4,000 in the subway system. in london where the attack is not completely different from what we have here, they have even morement should we continue to have major public surveillance? i'm not talking private, i'm talking public. >> absolutely. you have no expectation of privacy in the public place, the more technology we use, the better we will be able to combat terrorism. if not for the cameras in this case, we never would have found out who was involved. my question is, who was the fbi agent who identified these originally? who interviewed them? why did it take the public to identify who they were? >> why do you think that is? >> that's a question that needs to be answered. we need to find out who was the fbi agent, was he in boston? when those pictures appeared, why didn't he say, i know those people, i interviewed them. >> on top of th

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colonel tony shaffer, who works at the senator for advanced defense studies. now, as we talked about earlier, you know, i'm still serving. i'm in the pentagon working. >> right. >> scott: i know there is congressional action being taken as a result of this potential ruling by the department of defense. but is this a case where there is posturing between the defense counsel and prosecution counsel and the people getting hurt are the actual victims of the attack? what do you think? >> absolutely, scott. this is undue deference to the defense counsel. you are actually in the memo that the pentagon puts out gives a pathway to the defense. hey, just follow this path and your client will be almost assured to get a fairer trial. the issue here needs to be focused on doing the right thing. you and i served in the army, you continue to serve. i was taught do the next right thing. the next right thing here is to call out the truth. the victims of this attack were attacked by a member of al qaeda. it was self-criewted. he was in touch with anwar al-awlaki and john brenna

concern with i call the department of revenue debacle and certainly appreciate state senator kirk shaffer and others there in missouri who have been on the forefront of getting to the bottom of this and how our concealed carry list was released to federal authorities without all of the permissions and all of the safeguards in place. and that is very, very disturbing. so thank you for your work on that. and for your comments. i would now like to yield to a new member here who has just hit the ground running and has brought so much to our whole delegation, appreciate chris collins from new york and i'd be happy to yield time to you. mr. collins: thank you. i want to thank both the gentlewoman and the gentleman from missouri for your comments. i come to the house floor this afternoon to stand in support of the second amendment. i also proudly stand here in support of all the law-abiding gun owners in new york's 27th congressional district and all across our country. as a father and a grandfather, the recent violent tragedies in our country have left my heart heavy. but as a gun owner with a