go to colonel shaffer. you disagree with colonel hunt, right? >> i do. i love dave.is wrong on this. they have already threatened us. they are going to threaten us. they are trying to create conditions that they can start sustaining themselves and create camps to attack us here. they have already said that what the president said today he should have said six months ago. the intel piece should have been working hard hard hard. the first off define our strategic interests. war is policy by other means. define what our policy interests are. president obama didn't do that today one of them oil fields. i don't moan to make this just about oil. kurds establish their own state. dave, you have been there, you have seen it, they are autonomous. we need to be helping them for goodness sake -- >> from all of that, americans are getting a headache and i don't blame them i want to know colonel shaffer what you would do about this al qaeda army. that's what i want to know. i don't care about the kurds tonight and the other stuff we have larger policy at the center's web site. you

frank shaffer was reinstated by the way by a panel who said he was wrongly defrocked. where do you think it leaves us on this issue. >> it can be appealed and might be appealed to a higher board. this particular decision was based on the fact saying you can't punish someone for something they might do. minister shaffer, did violate a provision of the church which said we do not recognize same-sex marriage he married his son. beyond the reasoning there when they are saying he was being punished for being forced to promise not to continue marriages in the future. >> but they did uphold the 30 days he did serve. we'll have to leave it at that. inside stories of the week time for inside stories of the week. >> let's talk about philadelphia, we have a percentage increase in population terms among the millennials, coming from britain and new york -- brooklyn and new york, it's great time for drexel having the innovation corridor, we can absorb them. >>> this week three civil rights workers were murdered by the klu klux klan. this week the airport will open its exhibit. it's

do you agree with that colonel shaffer? doubt the information i have been given directly and by members of congress the president was briefed on this as late as february and probably last summer. did i editorial on this last summer when we first saw this coming. bill there, no doubt that the information was there. >> sea coward in your opinion? >> well, again, in my judgment, i love ralph, too he is another friend. i would go so far as to say that the president, the policy of the president is to do nothing there was deliberate attempt to not make a decision. >> you would not call him coward. >> i would call it dereliction of duty. >> colonel hunt i will give you last word here because you are in the hot seat with our viewers. i believe that an isis terror army having a staging ground is akin to what usama bin laden had in afghanistan before 2011. and that jordan and lebanon and other countries are going to be impacted by that, so if i'm commander and chief, i attack from the air and i kill as many isis as possible. you and

. >>> 52-year-old frank shaffer of lebanon, pennsylvania, went before the united methodist appeals panelmaryland. he was defrocked because he performed a marriage and indicate the he could not uphold the church's doctrine. >> this penalty i receive was not in line with our church law, i'm hopeful that the panel will do exactly that look at the law and come up with justice. >> shaffer's attorney argued that the defrocking was illegal, because it assumed he would break church law in the future. the panel has 20 days to render a decision. >>> now the latest on atlantic city's revel casino hotel bankruptcy filing, a lawyer said the resort is a quart melting ice coupe -- quote a melting ice cube. the 2 billion-dollar casino is back in bankruptcy court for the second time in a little over a year. it said it will shut down and fire it's 130 employees if a buyer cannot be found. >>> much more to come on "action news" saturday morning at 9:00 a.m. including weekend happenings. your favorite coffee drink could cost you a bit more, we'll explain. >>> nasa released a photo of an unusual sight off ic

of this it's called the top torture to military juntas herman back a freezing secret rolf comrade shaffer i'm all charged with gruesome experiments on jews. all were admitted to the united states is just some of an estimated thirty thousand dollars the war criminals brought to america many more were activated in europe decades of bombings that have kept europe in a state of terror are actually the work of nazis recruited by the white house top level officials in government and the cia confirmed former cia head bill colby calls gladio as the campaign is code named a quote major operation like the taksim square massacre and. snipers from a hotel shot into the crowds former prime minister. knows it was like the old parisian by the u.s. who was leading scholar on operation gladio as dr daniel guns that he joins us great to see you what do you make of what's happened in ukraine snipers shooting both demonstrators and police men in my day and you know it reminded me of a stumble on the first of may you had. secret armies linked to nato firing on people there in the square and they stand created

. >>> 52-year-old frank shaffer of lebanon pennsylvania went before the appeal also church in marylande was defrocked because he performed a marriage and indicated he could not uphold the church's doctrine. >> this penalty i receive was not in line with our church law, so i'm hopeful that the panel will do exactly that look at the law and come up with justice. >> shaffer's attorney argued that the defrocking was illegal, because it was assumed that the priest would break church law in the future. the panel has 20 days to render a decision. >> scrap metal thieves are stealing trenton's history one piece at a time. they are stripping copper and other metals from buildings and grave sights -- gravesites, one new jersey lawmaker said enough is enough. >> now you see historic buildings being ripped apart. >> reporter: salaryingens -- sal riggens is lamenting the fact that historic buildings are being stripped. so far five men have been arrested on threft charges. >> it -- theft charges. >> it started to happen almost daily, more and more got taken away and there's only a few strips left now

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. >>> frank shaffer will appear before a church panel in baltimore to argue that his punishment was illegal under church law. he was defrocked 6 months. -- 6 months ago. >>> presbyterian church allowed pastors to mar same-sex couples in states where it is legal. the change will need to be approved by the majority of 172 presbyterians to take effect. >>> philadelphia city council has approved the bill that changed the punishment of small amounts of marijuana. before it was a night in jail, today it is a 25-dollar fine. enforcement of the current law is discriminatory those arrested 82% of them are of african-american. >> once you have a record you can't get a job. councilman dennis o'brian voted against the bill saying council overstepped its bounds saying it should be done by state lawmakers. with a vote of 13-3 it is veto proof. >>> the search is on tore a buyer with the atlantic city revel casino and hotel. if they do not find a buyer by august 18, 3200 workers will lose their jobs. revel lost more than $21 million during the first quarter of this year alone. some casino patrons expressed

pastor frank shaffer joins me now. thanks for joining us. just read right now, the split within the church, we're always talking about this sort of in the general public, about how the attitudes in this are shifting so much. have you seen since this whole issue started with you today. has there been a shift in your church that accounted for this reversal. >> well, absolutely, i -- you know, this has been going on ever since my trial and a little bit before that. there has been definitely talk about schism, and the rift has become more denounced between conservatives. i believe that the decision that we heard that was made by the appeals committee is significant. and i think it may contribute to more retention. but in my book, that's not a bad thing, because i celebrate the fact that -- not only that i'm reinstated and that i'm a rev rant again, which is personally, of course, something to be celebrated. but i celebrate this decision because it's saying to our lgbt brothers and sisters in the church, that change is coming. that we no longer -

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was not political, but in 1973 the supreme court legalized abortion, and that decision radicalize shaffer. he understood legal abortion as what he had so long predicted for western culture. and so he brought a political edge to his message. he urged evangelicals to see themselves in this kind of last battle for civilization that required them to get out and pick it abortion clinics. this was revolutionary because it was at a time when the pro-life cause was very much a catholic cause. we forget this, but in the mid-70s this was not an issue that fired up protestants. he played a huge role in changing that, but the book also profiles what i will call dissenting an evangelical intellectuals who contested this equation of evangelicals believe with conservative republican politics, evangelicals to solve the authority of the bible as requiring believers to bring their own reason and experience to bear. some of this is really not a story of a dark red but an ongoing fight. >> host: what do you mean by authority and your subtitle? >> guest: that the thorny question. we all are at the nexus of co