i think shafiq has a coalition with stronger glue. people are, you know, like the elite business people, members of the ndp, the old regime is still there. this is stronger coalition. i don't want to go, i'm short on time, but like two quick points. the president and scaf, shafiq is possibly closer to scaf. this might be a problem for morsi. however, shafiq will suffer from the parliament and some interviews made in cairo and here, in washington, d.c., i know that the muslim brothers are intentionally blocking some steps badly needed in the egyptian economy. refuse to give $3.2 billion loan which was badly needed to balance the budget. however, many people are saying that the muslim brothers actually insisted that they are going to block this deal because they don't want the government to benefit from it. so maybe having morsi can help. one final thing. can we look at a deal between morsi or the muslim brothers and scaf where the muslim brother can accept shafiq as president in return to, for example, appoint a prime minister, a few m

compare this to 5.5 million that shafiq has won. speaking about almost trip it will number of votes. so from one perspective the revolution won. from another perspective it lost because we only have 51% turnout. this is definitely a loss for the revolution. why is this the case? a number of perspectives. from one perspective prolonging the transitional period. this is really a dangerous thing in a system like egypt, which is very centralized. you can't leave the top executive office empty for such a long time. ironically, this is one of the things that mubarak was for. he said, you know, early elections and he's going to flooef six months. lots of people don't trust mubarak. myself, i don't trust him. i don't think he would have left. however, i think it's very important -- it was very important not to prolong the transition period. the other thing is the divisions among the revolution forces which caused them -- lots of people prefer security, lots of people prefer let's g back to our normal lives. the other thing is with lots of p

shafiq is seen as the army's man. used to be the commander's air force, prime minister under hosni mubarak, also he's running as prime minister, under the army, many see him deeply aligned with him. >> apology for the technical difficulties there. that's what live tv does. >>> back to the u.s. and the latest on the jerry sandusky case. sandusky is in prison now in custody and around the clock supervision. we got this exclusive video of his wife, dottie, coming to the detention center to visit her husband. she testified in his defense and visibly shaken when the 45

with demonstrations in tahrir square, the torching of ahmed shafiq's campaign headquarters. so i think what we have now is a very highly dynamic situation heading into the runoff of these elections. so what i thought i'd do just to set the scene is to talk not about the candidates but about the broad context of these elections and what we can expect to see in the second round or in the run to have these elections, but also what they signify for egypt's posttransition politics. the significance, of course, of these elections, as greg mentioned, it really is the first time in egypt that we have a real contestation for political power in the office of the head of state in the egyptian republic. that is a truly historic development. these elections also mark the end of the transition, the postrevolutionary transition, at least no, ma'amly, with the supreme council of the armed forces that has acted as a caretaker of this transition, expected to transfer power at the end of june to a newly elected civilian president. and then, of course, this is egypt. it is the most populous, th

what has shafiq. 12 12,347,380 votes. 48%. mohammed morsi, he won -- [ cheers and applause ] >> translator: sit down. have your seats. [ cheers and applause ] [ cheers and applause ] [ cheers and applause ] >> an eruption of energy and enthusiasm from cairo's tahrir square coming as egypt's electoral commission announces that its candidate, mohammed morsi, of the freedom and justice party, has won egypt's presidential election. the arab world's most populous nation elects an islamist head of state. our chief international correspondent christiane amanpour, our cairo bureau chief ben wedeman are on the scene watching this eruption of joy. christiane, your thoughts? >> jonathan, it is incredible to be standing over here watching this square explode and enjoy, obviously, these are the muslim brotherhood supporters who've been brought over here for so long. but this is a dramatic moment. we did not know, they did not know who was going to be their president. it's the first time in the history of modern egypt that egyptians have no

mursi and general shafiq. so given this background, what can we expect heading into the runoff? i think much will depend on how the next three weeks develop. we will see two competing processes, i think, between now and the 16th. we will see a process of politics and a process of protest. the process of politics has already begun with the two leading candidates beginning to woo the independent voters that have broken for the three candidates who didn't make it into the second round. and there are all sorts of talks of political maneuverings, deals between the candidates, certain guarantees, especially on the part of the muslim brotherhood for the independent candidates to give them their support. so that i think will be one process that we will see. the other competing process will be represented by the protesters. and here, this is what we've seen over the course of the last 24 hours, whereby the disaffected revolutionaries will seek to delegitimize the election itself. this will take the form of protest. this will take the form of legal challenges against the process itself. s

shafiq supporters stunned. hours after morsi was declared the winner, he appeared on state television and assured egyptians he wasn't just a muslim leader, and this is going to be his big challenge. will he represent all egyptians? sh this is what he said on state television just a few hours ago. listen. >> translator: to all sectors of the people, to my people, my tribe, i say to them, to this momentous day, that today with your election and with your -- after the -- i am the president for today for all egyptians, wherever they are, inside or abroad. >> mohamed morsi, egypt's new president. will he unify the country? so many are still suspicious of the muslim brotherhood. our cheer international correspondent is in cairo. what is morsi promising the egyptian people, and do they believe him? >> reporter: well, of course that is the question for the majority of egyptians. we had so many people down in tahrir square still celebrating. this is going to go on for a long time. they've got fireworks. people have been

he expects shafiq to win, but has harsh words for the muslim brotherhood.if you could comment on the boycott movement and also, as all these decisions came down yesterday, shafiq sounded like he had won in a statement he is making to the public, and the anger of mohamed morsi. >> the boycott movement has certainly grown, especially after the first-round of the result -- after the results of the first round of presidential elections. i would say there's a small core of revolutionary youth who boycotted the first round of elections and the entire process been led by the military council was illegitimate. the boycott is being pushed further. i think it is growing. people, a leading intellectual who was press the backing the muslim brotherhood candidate, has now said he will boycott. there is a leading movement against it for a number of reasons. one is saying that the whole process is being rigged. there are questions to run in the first round of presidential elections. the commission distributive last-minute voter lists and behaved suspiciously. there are que

lots work with shafiq. i think narrowing his won't win because again it's il lodge voting has it got who gets some organization of voting they reach the limit generally in the first round. again you need for legitimate toopt have more turnout and have a broader support. that's why i think to be the challenge that morsy is facing. i think again, shafiq's coalition is kind of strong but he can in more voters than the accusations of trying to monopolize the monetary system. >> thank you. we've run out of time. thank you for the stimulating discussion. [ applause ] >>> coming up on c-span 3, veterans department officials respond to congressional questions about a report showing the department has been overpaying for prosthetics. that's noled by deputy defense secretary ashton carter on the budget needs and possible automatic spending cuts in january. then a look at the causes behind the 2008 financial crisis. >> msnbc host chris matthews is the featured speaker this afternoon at the 25th anniversary gerald ford

his opponent is ahmed shafiq, president mubarak's last prime minister. the brotherhood will take egypt back a hundred years, he says, promising to restore law and order and a pro western government. if mubarak's old ally shafiq wins this election many more demonstrators like these will return to the streets. the military here has reimposed martial law just in case. many egyptians see shafiq as a new mubarak, who could end democracy. >> nobody would have believed -- who believed in the revolution would vote for shafiq. >> reporter: others fear the sweeping changes the muslim brotherhood might bring. >> they don't believe that women have equal rights to men. >> reporter: christians here worry if the brotherhood wins they'll become second class citizens or worse. egypt will become like saudi arabia, says miriam. she is already applying for asylum in the united states, afraid that egypt's democracy could backfire. results are expected monday night. it's now a choice between a potential new strong man or islamic law. who could have guessed it back then? >> ri

he picked up 13.2 million votes, or 51%, beating out former egyptian prime minister ahmed shafiq, whomillion. in his victory address, morsi vowed to respect egypt's international obligations as well as human rights at home. >> i approach all the on this day we are witnessing. and which i have become thanks to god and your well, the president to all egyptians. and i will treat all egyptians the same and respect them equally. we will respect agreements and international law as well as egyptian commitments and treaties with the rest of the world. we will work to establish the press -- principles as well as human values, especially freedom and respect of human rights. the respect of women and family rights as well as children and to do with any discrimination. >> expectations are high for the first freely elected president and egypt and a website called morsimeter.com has already been set up to monitor his progress. president obama called president-elect morsi and congratulated him following his victory. speaking monday, state to permit spokesperson victoria nuland explained what presiden

former commander ahmed shafiq served as hosni mubarak's last prime minister. both candidates have declared victory, and both sides cited results they claim to have obtained from the election commission. commission members have not said when they will declare the winner. some of them have said the results should be ready within a few days. some egyptians fear the announcement will renew tensions between the two camps. yujiro futori, nhk world, cairo. >>> nobahisu is nhk's senior commentator and a former middle east correspondent. so, why do you think the election commission suddenly held back the election results? >> that's a good question. it's not clear. the commission says it has received 400 complaints from two candidate sides. it says it needs time to study them in detail. >> all right. >> there's plenty of speculation as to whether we should take this statement at face value or if there's some other political motive at work. there's a reason we should be skeptical. while local media reports have put mohamed morsi in the lead, the country's interim authori

shafiq is seen as the army's man. used to be the commander's air force, prime minister under hosni mubarak, also he's running as prime minister, under the army, many see him deeply aligned with him. >> apology for the technical difficulties there. that's what live tv does. >>> back to the u.s. and the latest on the jerry sandusky case. sandusky is in prison now in custody and around the clock supervision. we got this exclusive video of his wife, dottie, coming to the detention center to visit her husband. she testified in his defense and visibly shaken when the 45 guilty versed were read late friday night. one of sandusky's attorneys spoke on the late night radio show and said he and another attorney tried to withdraw before the trial even got started. >> we asked to resign from the case. that was done in secret. joe amendola and i asked judge cleveland if we could withdraw from representing jerry sandusky because we felt we were ethically unable to go forward. >> when did you ask to resign the case? >> we did that th

>> if shafiq wins, the muslim brotherhood said it will start a new revolution and i think about shafiq wins and comes to power, there will be many people on the streets that will probably be some violence. if the muslim brotherhood win, you'll get a revolution of a different kind. either way, big changes are coming. >> richard, turning to another part of that world which is in turmoil, whether eat latest in haffa on the ground? >> the u.n. monitors have been able to get into haffa. it was the town not far from the turkish border that u.s. officia officials -- surrounded by syrian forces and troops stormed into haffa. once they cleared it out of the opposition, then the u.n. monitors were allowed in. the u.n. monitors saw a great deal of destruction, they described the stench of dead bodies, a town that's effectively abandoned, buildings still smolders. they can't find a situation that being looked like it had been pa pass city filed. >> thanks so much for your report and stay safe out there. now business.filed. >> thanks so much for your report and stay safe out there. now business. mi

the, and shafiq campaign has denied he lost, saying their candidate won.we will find out for sure tomorrow. over and above that, what exactly, what powers will this president half? this handover of power that was scheduled for june 30 has really been rendered meaningless by a sweeping set of amendments to the constitutional declaration that has been governing the country since march 2011. these were issued in a laterally by the supreme council of armed forces -- unilaterally by the supreme council of the armed forces. really, they entrench the military's power and strip the incoming president of any significant authority. of course we have to remember these amendments come just three days after the country's top court dissolve the popularly elected parliament and also after a decree by the ministry of justice the really returns elements of martial law to egypt and allows the military widespread powers of arrest and detention of civilians. most prominently perhaps of these constitutional amendments is it removes the president's role as commander in chief of

shafiq is a well known political figure. he was in office last year when demonstrations forced president hosni mubarak to step down. his rival is mohamed morsi of the muslim brotherhood. he was the first to declare himself a winner with an announcement on monday. shafiq is criticizing morsi's supporters. he says they are continuing demonstrations to put pressure on the election commission. analysts say confrontations between the rival groups could escalate when the official election results are released. >>> egyptians aren't the only ones waiting to find out who will be their next president. people in israel are also following this political drama. we'll tell you why they are nervous later in the program. >>> north korea is an unpredictable nation. its leaders often threaten their neighbors to the south. sometimes they attack them. south korean forces want to be ready for anything. so they've teamed up with members of the u.s. military to hold drills on land and sea. nhk world's fumitaka sato reports. >> reporter: i am 25 mi

and if shafiq win, it undermines the impression that this was an honest election even though, you know, who knows who actually won. so, that is -- either way for the united states, it raises questions. and it raises questions about the money, the funding that the united states gives to the military. >> right. more than $1 billion a year that we have sent to the egyptian military who have grabbed power and been in a huge power grab since the arab spring. >> they have, and what they have done most recently is made it virtually impossible for anybody to lead the country as president, because they have taken his powers away from him. now, i think that the united states has a huge interest in our military, in our cooperation with the egyptians and remember, there is another election coming up shortly in libya, which could be influenced by this. so, look, the whole area is unstable. >> it is in flux. yes, i want to bring back christiane and ben wedeman who are over there looking over tahrir square, and again, we are waiting for the announcement, and sounds like either way this goes, there wi

ahmed shafiq is the best man to represent this country without fanaticism and with wisdom. he said almost all egyptians shared his opinion, to which many of those listening strongly objected. democracy may be in its early stages here, but debate is booming. cnn, cairo. >>> back here in the u.s. the immigration bombshell president obama dropped yesterday is prompting different reactions. representative elton gagly is chairman of the immigration policy subcommittee. i spoke with him earlier and he says he wasn't moved by the president's emotional appeal to halt deportations on some young illegal immigrants. >> the president still gives a tremendous speech and it was filled with anecdotal examples, heart wrenching anecdotal examples. but our country is full of heart-wrenching anecdotal examples of american citizens or people that are here legally that families are without jobs. many are denied access to our universities and colleges because of over crowding. >> on the other side in the hispanic community this is being seen as a huge olive branch from an administration that had

shafiq is a well known political figure. he was in office last year when demonstrations forced president hosni mubarak to step down. his rival is muhammad morsi of the muslim brotherhood. he was the first to declare himself a winner with an announcement on monday. shafiq is criticizing morsi's supporters. he says their continuing demonstrations to put pressure on the election commission. analysts say confrontations between the rival groups could escalate when the official election results are released. >>> egyptians aren't the only ones waiting to find out who will be their next president. people in israel are also following this political drama. the neighboring countries went to war four times before signing a peace treaty in 1979. now the rise of the muslim brotherhood threatens to turn back the clock. nhk world's kohi suji reports from jerusalem. >> reporter: along the border with egypt, israel hurries to construct a barbed wire fence. the 240-kilometer long barrier should be complete within a year. israel and egypt have

presidential election but supporters on the other side for mubarak's former prime minister ahmed shafiq are refusing to admit defeat claiming a majority of votes. the official tally comes tomorrow. here to sort through this is our correspondent who joins us live from cairo. what can you tell us? >> good morning, willie. let's start with the condition of former president hosni mubarak. his lawyer tells nbc the president is now on a respirator and he does expect the former president to make a full recovery within three to four days and despite some of the conflicting reports that have been coming out throughout the course of the evening, his wife, susan mubarak, has not accompanied or visited him at the hospital. he remains under tight watch at the military hospital here in a cairo neighborhood. but there have been conflicting reports as to the overall state of his health. the official news agency here reporting as you mentioned that he had suffered strokes, he had arrived at the hospital clinically dead and that he was ultimately resuscitated but now his lawyer tells us he is breathing o

as you mentioned, both sides, the muslim brotherhood and shafiq claiming victory.rak were to die in the middle of this process, it would add another emotional element to a very volatile time. but, no, his direct health does not have any impact on the political process this country has moved beyond the mubarak era. but it is -- it is something that could have an emotional impact. >> as of right now, from where we stand, has there been any violence in the streets that would have an impact as the final count is completed? have there been protests that have grown to that stage, or has it been decently contained? >> you're showing images of a protest right now. there was a very large protest in tahrir square last night that was held by supporters of the muslim brotherhood. today in tahrir square, traffic is moving as normal. so there's no protests there right now. there was one very large last night. but so far, the situation on the ground has been peaceful. the expectation is, however, that there could be clashes after that final announcement is made, and the final ele

morsi's opponent, ahmed shafiq, has also claimed victory. shafiq is a former air force general, mubarak's last prime minister. this protest has the look of last year's occupation of tahrir square when hosni mubarak was forced from office after an 18-day revolution. the military warned protesters it would respond with the utmost firmness if anyone threatened the interest of the state. the protesters didn't seem intimidated. >> they can fight, they can kill us. but we will not leave this place. never. >> pelley: here's charlie d'agata above tahrir square in cairo. charlie, i wonder, is there any word on when they're going to announce who the new president is? >> well, the election commission has given itself a sunday deadline to announce these results but as we've seen these deadlines come and go. until that moment, cairo remains on the edge and what i can tell you, scott, is if the former prime minister ahmed shafiq is declared a winner, this square is going to erupt in anger because they're convinced their candidate has won and any other res

an egyptian news agency reports that hosni mubarak's last prime minister ahmed shafiq will be declared the winner against mohamed morsi. both sides have claimed victory. that's making for a tense weekend in cairo. ben wedeman is there. ben, let me ask you first of all, two scenarios. if shafiq is declared the winner, how will that be taken in the general populous in egypt, and what happens if morsi wins? how will that be taken? >> it's important to stress at the beginning, candy, that there is no reason to sort of trust the reliability of this report, which is on a semiofficial website but it's quoting unnamed officials. that's the english website. on the arabic website, they are still indicating the man who won the election is muhammad morsi. so there is complete confusion at the moment. somewhat like the earlier reports earlier this week that hosni mubarak was clinically dead whereas he's fairly alive and well at the moment. so what we know is that however there is a lot of concern among the security services that if ahmed shafiq is, indeed, declared the winner that many of these peo

all political powers agree on the necessity to disqualify shafiq because this is a humiliation to egypt and its revolution. secretary of state hillary >> sreenivasan: in washington... secretary of state hillary clinton urged the military council to make a full transfer of power to a civilian government. she warned there must be no going back on the move to democracy in egypt. u.n. observers finally entered the syrian town of haffa today, a day after government troops recaptured the place. u.s. and u.n. officials had warned of a potential massacre there. the monitors found the coastal town wrecked and nearly deserted. army guns had shelled haffa, virtually without pause, for nine days. also today, a car bomb exploded in a suburb outside the capital of damascus. the blast wounded 14 people and damaged a shi-ite shrine. british prime minister david cameron faced questioning today about his ties to top officials of the murdoch newspapers. the "leveson inquiry"-- as it's known-- zeroed in on cameron's ties to rebekah brooks. she's facing criminal charges over phone hacking by the murdoch tab

they said they do not like ahmed shafiq, the former member of the mubarak regime. at the same time they certainly do not want the muslim brotherhood who is going to base the egyptian state on islamic law. >> some people are already chanting, "down with the next president." >> stephen: yes, down with the next president! hey hey! ho ho! tbd has got to go! [ laughter ] this may look bad, but there's nothing to worry about. look at the facts: nobody likes either candidate, angry protesters are screaming in the streets, and only 46% of registered voters went to the polls. which means egypt has finally achieved american-style democracy! [ laughter ] fork america! -- for america! because democracy isn't about getting everything you want! it's about not getting most of what you don't want! egyptians understand this. look at the sphinx. that was a compromise between voters who opposed a giant statue of a man and voters who opposed a giant statue of a cat! [ laughter ] that's what we americans are going to do this fall. in november, we'll go to the polls, hold our nose and p

the announcement came about 90 minutes ago, defeating ahmed shafiq. amanpour is the global affairs anchor, also with her is correspondent ben wedeman. let's go back to the moment this was announced by effectively the elections commission in cairo. tell

morsi and obviously general shafiq both have pledged to me that they will honor these terms. >> i want to move on the syria, if we could, and the u.n. now

so they're arguing that if the law was legal and therefore shafiq can't be a presidential candidate. >> ifill: tomorrow we expect even more demonstrations in the square. >> i think so. i mean there's a real effort to kind of regalvanize the revolutionary spirit through tahrir square. the problem is it's one thing to march in the square but they still can't get around one message. you have all these factions thin the sort of revolutiona groups fighting over what should be the message and who should be the leader. so i think the spirit is there in tahrir square but in terms of tangible solutions for those who want to see a real revolution here, i don't think it can happen through tahrir square. i think you're seeing a lot of people reconciling. there's ebbs and flows in terms of who we see out there and the kind of enthusiasm that's there. but there's a real effort to kind of jump-start it, if you will, by getting the crowds back out there it's the only way ... ey kw how to rt of bring about change. >> ifill: nancy youssef in cairo tonight, thank you so much. >> sure. >> brown: still t

shafiq served as hosni mubarak's last prime minister.he commission members have not yet said when they will declare the winner. some of them said the results should be ready within a few days. >>> some egyptians fear the announcement will renew tensions between the two camps. >>> that's all for now on in edition of newsline. we'll be back with more news at the top of the hour. do join us then if you can. thanks for watching.

first, he made a very explicit and somewhat chilling warning that if shafiq, the candidate of the olduard, won in last weekend's runoff, that there would be blood in the streets. that the egyptian people would never stand for it, that there would be... he said at one point this revolution won't be as peaceful as the last one meaning this is really going to be a violent uprising. well, with the victory of morsi you don't have that prospect quite so obvious. in terms of the policies that the muslim brotherhood will follow, president morsi, as their representative will follow assuming he's aallowed to be president, they offer pretty conciliatory agenda. they talk about reaching out to a range of parties. they talk about calling a conference this fall of all the range of experts who can helped a vise on where egypt's economy should go. they know8ñ that the job one fr any government now is to try to get the economy moving. the egyptian economy is at a standstill. they've got to get people back to work. they've got to get foreign investment flowing back in. they understand that. they need

morsi ran against ahmed shafiq, a former prime minister and air force commander. local media say morsi is ahead. muslim brotherhood leaders say they base their claim of victory on their own count. morsi says he's ready to serve all egyptians. >> reporter: members of shafiq's camp said it would be absurd to believe their opponents. committee, plans to announce the official results on thursday. meanwhile, the supreme council of the country's armed forces issued new amendments to the country's interim constitution on monday. they stipulate that parliament's power to draw up legislation and approve budgets will be transferred to the army temporarily. they also say a committee to draft a new constitution will be organized by the army. the amendments forbid the president from interfering with the military's budget or personnel affairs. the interim military administration says it will transfer power to a civilian administration ts month. the moves to strengthen the military's authority have angered young egyptians and the muslim brotherhood. a large rally to protest the