you speak with karim khan's lawyer, shahzad akbar. , karim is shahzad akbar khan's lawyer. told me why it is difficult to narrate his clients lives for the court and media. -- wen i have a client have this person who was killed so would like to construct his life on photographs. we have family photos of when he was young, when he was in school, when he was a teenager in and grew up. they're not there because you don't have the culture of taking pictures. >> in 2012, democracy now! spoke to, the cofounder of the foundation for fundamental rights and organizations that represents victims of drone strikes in pakistani courts. he is karim khan's lawyer. shahzad akbar explained why he decided to visit the u.s. at that time. >> on behalf of the victims in pakistan wanted to reach out to americans so they can make an informed judgment on drones. their opinion matters and it is going to matter in the next elections as well. they need to know what drones are doing to humans in pakistan. many of them who are civilians and it has been said by independent groups and journalists as well

shahzad akbar, can you respond?a great orbama greater, but he has to support his argument with facts -- orator, but he has to support his argument with facts. if you look at cases that have been investigated by us and organizations like amnesty international, this is not a liberal rule of law favoring the united states. attack one you place, wait for rescuers and then you attack a second time. you do not attack people on behavior, patterns, how they are dressed, and then make guesswork on how to attack people. this all happened during president obama's tenure. >> kareem khan, can you talk about the effects of the drone strikes in your area? how do you people feel? >> it has disrupted everything, for example, the education. everything is disturbed. our trade is disturbed. , health institutions -- everything is disturbed by these drone strikes. >> explain further, the way people respond, how often do these drone strikes happen? how often are people killed? attacking mosques, schools, school children, , every oneo, eve