right waterboarding to work and i knew that was just not true you did get information to lead shaikh muhammad and other terrorists that eventually led to not just the killing of osama bin laden but a lot of victories. no actually reality check joe tortured doesn't work it's never gained valuable intel this is well no man it's been known for years where have you been and i'm sorry but if i was waterboard one hundred eighty three times in one month like shaikh muhammad was i probably confess that i was a damn tooth fairy if that's what you wanted to hear think about this point though for one second if it is torture did get intelligence is that enough justification to practice the barbaric it in the main act of torturing human beings i think not but despite all of these facts all of these inconsistency with the raid in the killing of osama bin ladin it won't matter because not only has the corporate controlled media regurgitated the government's narrative of the event without demanding a shred of evidence but now this narrative will be accompanied with an expensive major hollywood drama decision