we may have seen the last of shairon martis tonight. he's been absolutely masterful on the mound except for the pitch against jay bruce in the 2 2nd. >> rob: he's had great stuff all night, changing speed. he's been outstanding. >> johnny: willie harris getting set to bench hit. >> rob: 18 first pitch strikes, one of the best outings thrown in a long time. >> rob: fouls off to the left. he had a complete game against the cardinals may 2nd. he gave up one run and five hits in that ballgame, didn't walk anybody. tonight he's allowed only three base hits. he's got them 2-0. >> rob: one was a home run to bruce, one was a double. pretty nice night for shairon. >> rob: 2-1 pitch to josh bard. the count goes to 2-2. josh from syracuse, went to spring training with the sox. he thought he had made the ball club and put himself out of the job. he was signed as a free agent march 21st. that's late isn't it? >> rob: it is. most teams already have their rosters set. trying to hook up at the major league level at that time length is almost impossible

shairon martis has the change- up and the fastball, keeping the orioles off balance. >> jim p.: you know this is a game of adjustment. when martis pitched against the orioles, adam jones hit a home run in washington. he is better tonight than he was back then. i know he struggled, but that's what i think you want to see in a 22-year-old pitcher. are you better as the season progresses even though you're going to struggle. that's part of learning the game. that's what steve mccaddie who has come on as a pitching coach said. >> rob: you have to make mistakes on your own to learn at this level. we have so many guys, he's got less than 20 starts in the big leagues. he's still got to go out there not knowing these hitters so well. >> jim p.: brian roberts last night in a game the orioles win 11-1, went 0-4, tonight they've been able to keep him off the bases. >> bob: martis came in bottom of the fifth with right around 80 pitches, so this ballgame based on pitch counts will be decided by the bullpens eventually. washington leads 3-1. fastball up and away, and there is alberto gonzalez. >> rob

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he will face shairon martis, winless in his last six starts for the nats.me will get you going at 1 0-0 with nats xtra, johnny holiday and phil wood. that's masn 2 and d.c. 50. we'll join you tomorrow. here is a match-up of big fellows, joel hanrahan, 6'4", 250. scott rolen, 6'4", 250. tying run at third base, two outs here in the 8th. joel was outstanding in the 8th inning last night. he actually pitched the last two outs in that inning and then a 1-2-3 night. rolen takes a beauty of a fastball on the outside corner. >> rob: i was talking to darren fletcher today talking about hanrahan, how can this kid throw 95 and not three 95, trying to blow by team. >> bob: game tied. 95 mile-per-hour fastball. scott rolen turned it around. >> rob: the location was just terrible. still have to locate it. >> bob: that run charged to kip well and a win taken away from ross detwiler. >> rob: well, now, you have to do damage control right here. pitch location is going to be up in the zone, very hittable. rolen did not try to crush the ball, put it in play for a base hit an

. >> bob: and he will say shairon martis. >> rob: shah-rone martis. >> bob: shairon martis. under the hand of marco scutaro. count even at 1. scutaro in this series, 1-for-7. came to town hitting .302. they play him way around to the right in the outfield. adam dunn is more than 100 feet off the left field line. in you drew a straight line from home plate to the bullpen bench, dunn would be in the way and willie harris is about 20 feet towards right center. trying to get him on the fastball away like he did vernon wells back in the 1st. 2-2. >> rob: that's not too good. look at the road earned run average. >> bob: not many starts to get those. he has only made one start on the road and that was at philadelphia and that will do something to your e.r.a. that ball unplayable for dukes. he has started at home against the pirates, orioles, giants, reds and tampa bay was a road game. so two starts on the road and the other four here. he has pitched deep a game, 6th inning, three times. tough hitter here, 2-2 pitch. >> rob: the second time that he was out against the oriole, 96 pit

shairon martis coming off a rough outing. he was scored upon early and often by toronto sunday and jeremy guthrie, 5-7, trying to get that e.r.a. down. in fact, both of them over 5.00. >> jim: guthrie coming off a good start where he beat cole

. >> johnny: shairon martis leads off the 3rd and fouls down the

shairon martis is going back for a refresher course at triple-a. it's simple, it's black and white. we'll get someone else that can do the job. you're up here to get outs. you're not up here, this isn't an instructional league. the major leagues. so i think he just wants guys to be confident, throw strikes and attack the strike zone. >> bob: on a damp night like tonight, doesn't carry. off the bat of ronny paulino. @ú oof! i hope he has that insurance. aflac! you really need it these days. how come? well if you're hurt and can't work it pays you cash... yeah to help with everyday bills like gas, the mortgage... ...and groceries. it's like insurance for daily living. so...what's it called? uhhhhh aflaaac!!!! oh yeah! that's it! aflac. we've got you under our wing. a-a-a-aflaaac! >> bob: willie harris was leading off yesterday in the 7th inning, in a close ballgame. the nats led 2-1 and he really launched one. >> rob: there you see the mistake right there by chris ray, he tried to throw a fastball. thought it would run away from him. you saw where the catcher wieters was set up, and h

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shairon martis will go for the nats, and jeremy guthrie will go for the orioles. >> guthrie's a guy that i love. he's 17-17 in his career in the big leagues, but good fastball, 93, 94, a nice slider. he comes at you. >> has his fourth start against the nationals tonight for guthrie. he's tied with brad bergesen for most wins on that orioles staff. they have five. >> thanks for joining us, everybody. wil nieves getting loose in the cage. he's going to try to crack into that line-up tonight if needed. for ray knight, i'm johnny holliday, thanks for joining us. nats baseball coming up next. frost-brewed coors light. ♪ how cold is it? it's chilled down to 34 degrees... for a taste as cold as the rockies. it's aged cold. it's filtered cold. and it's served in cans, bottles, and glasses... that tell you when it's cold. why? because refreshment isn't everything. it's the only thing. frost-brewed coors light. the world's most refreshing beer. from that first dollar forward, cash flow isn't just an important thing to small business. it's everything. that's why pnc is introducing your new cfo, cas

great outing for shairon martis. he had 7 solid innings on the mound tonight. >> rob: you can't pitch any better than that. that's exactly what's expected of you. go out there, go through the lineup three time, try to get the ball to the 8th. >> johnny: hanrahan comes in 38 hit, 12 walks. he's not allowed six earned runs hrhree iingsgs tchehed. . jerron goes to work against hanrahan here in the top of the 8t 1-0. willy taveras is next for the reds. then comes brandon phillips. >> johnny: he's ahead 1-2. lowest era since may 21st. that's a pretty good number. >> rob: that weakness we had has now turned into a strength. now we're having trouble getting runs. you know what, the hitters did it now it's time for the pitchers to go on a role. the hitters will catch back up. >> johnny: hairston retired a ground ball to guzman. >> rob: our over all run average is a run er than the closest competitor. we need to get that downder four. if our starters ke going a t mo >> johnny: the ball came right to his glove. the umpire raci

shairon martis trying to get his 6th win of the year. >> phil: martis has been effective. e has cut down on his walk totals. room for improvement but, again, he has earned his spot in this rotation. >> johnny: and sine's last -- and shairon's win came against the giants. he has had two quality starts back to back. >> phil: this is a guy you can trust out there. in the grand scheme of things, he is going to be one of the younger start, but because he has been pitching for such a long time, he will be around in the rotation come september when some of these young guys will be shutting down. >> johnny: the vacuum cleaners are coming closer and closer to our set. i think it's time to pack it up. beginning tomorrow at 1 0-0. game 3 of the three-game series. the nats go for the sweep. they win tonight, 5-3 in 12 on a willie harris two-run homerun. see you tomorrow on father's day like owning a home. watching our children grow. and retiring with confidence. so whatever you're looking forward to, m&t bank is here to help you get there. m&t bank. understanding what's important. cubs

tonight shairon martis goes for the win. can he complete the task? find out now on masn.  and tonight at nationals  game 2 the middle game of 3 against the cincinnati reds. bob carpenter taking a couple of days off. johnny holiday. getting the 26 jersey today putting on the cap. great to have you folks with us tonight as the nationals try to get back in the winning track after losing the opener last night. the bullpen was outstanding. yeah. >> we're drafting guys right out of college were bullpen guys in college. the bullpen record over the last 16. come paired to the 665 that's enormous. what a great cut do you know. the home ranas loued -- home ranas loued 1-14. they brought this guy back. ron villone comes in after that. he nails down the 8th. huge strike out there. then mike macdougal goes out there keeps it a one rung ballgame. as far as the reliever, did a great job. wil nieves did a great job catching the out at. we want to give them credit even though we got the loss last night. they're being well pitched. that's a lot of it,

and shairon martis, ricky romero tomorrow.iler back to work, 16 pitches, 9 strikes in the 1st inning. adam lind leads off. >> rob: do we stay at a hotel there or is it a day trip? >> bob: we have been treating that as commuter day trip in the last few years. >> rob: we don't get per diem or anything? >> bob: you know what? i don't know that. it's within a 50-mile radius, i know, unless you live way out somewhere. if you want that per diem, you could rent a hotel room out by dulles for the weekend but you would probably break even. 2-1. lind, rios and millar, the former oriole, ken millar, here in the 2nd. detwiler working upstairs effectively so far. adam lind leads the american league in double. 25-year-old outfielder from muncie, indiana, via a good baseball school, the university of alabama. tried to pull that outside breaking ball did lind. alberto gonzalez throws him out. and three in a row for detwiler since the walk to aaron hill. and then alex rios is next. he is hot, eight-game streak. >> rob: this kid, rios, he remin

. >> bob: shairon martis on the mound. foul ground, gets there and he makes the catch. willingham just sticking the glove out and it came down, so roberone pitch is retired and one away. >> jim p.: a big breezeerat camden yads. we couldn't figurout ónn'th field how it was blowing. the turf here, warning track. >> bob: adam jones looking for the breakout game and he got it. >> jim p.: arted out with the double, he ends up a single, double, triple. the at-bat he had against hanrahan, part of that eight- run sixth inning. there you go. you can look numbers. havinga terrific year for the kid about to turn 24 years old in august. >> rob: i wonder if pete rose ever changed his hitting approach or style or batting stance, he said, no. % i knew i'd go through slumps, but he said i knew i' hit m% wayout ofslumsso  changeatig >> jimp:whatdid he get, 4300-plus hits? >> rob: yes. >> jim p.: why would you ever be in a slump? an 11o 1,200 hit seas wade bogs use today say, i'm not in a slump. i'm in a period of adjustment. >> bob: s tsn ba

we know shairon martis got of to that blissful start. he's 5-1. i'd like to see him hit pitches with a fastball. he throws an awful lot with t change up. he has a little bit of difficulty. he can't walk 27 people and strikeout 27. he's got to have better command. he has to get more pitches economical. he throws too many to get t out. >> you look at harang. he's had an impressive year. one of the guys they're building around here. as for martis, nice start. may 14 was his last win. as you said, not getting enou strikeouts here. >> i don't think he'll be a strikeout guy. he's got a good fastball, not an overpowering fastball. if you get the 292 miles per hour fastball up and it sink, it's right back in the meat o the plate. he's got to work that fastbal inside then go soft and away with the changeup. that's going to make the slid way more effective. >> one of the sliders they had earlier in the season. how's he doing as he gets ready? >> he pitched three innings last night. he was able to hit 92

shairon martis and here come the red sox. if you haven't bought your tickets for tuesday, wednesday or thursday, act now. not many left. top nine, joel hanrahan still in the game top of the order for the blue jays. marco scutaro, 0-4. aaron hill, 1-4. then, vernon wells who has had two hits. two who has to guzman. nice belt high hop. that's how the night starts. marco scutaro, i would imagine, hasn't had many 0-5s this year. he was 5 5-7 last coming into this game. i think one of the emerging stories of the nationals pitching staff this week is how they have handled some of the league's very best hitters. mark teixeira, alex rodriguez and tonight marco scutaro. this guy came in batting .302. guzman, a three-hopper this time. three equals two. two down. vernon wells next. you know, the guy's whose dad played ncfl. there's jason frasor who might be functioning at their new closer. their true closer scott downs is on the d. l. so they're wp by committee. >> rob: this club is doing much better. the nationals are now 7-11 in one-r

on the first pitch that shairon martis threw that, ball stayed down for adam dunn. orioles are done in the sixth inning.   >> bob: celebrate the fourth of july weekend next week at nationals park, the braves are coming in. saturday, first of 20,000 fans receive many u.s. flags. sunday, family fun day. post-game the kids get to run the bases. you can buy your tickets anytime. top 7, still a one run game. hard throwing right-hander jim johnson is next for the orioles. >> jim p.: on his birthday, he comes in with a one run lead. he does have a great sinker coming off a good road trip. he just turned 26 today, 6'5". born in new york. lives down in sarasota. wants to be a carpenter if he didn't play baseball. handy around the house. if you're dave trembley and you want to bring him in. >> jim h.: three scoreless innings in the interleague series at nationals park last month. >> jim p.: he's got a big curveball and a change-up, he's probably using a little more because it does slow the bats down. >> jim h.: that's the swing

. >> johnny: shairon martis leads off the 3rd and fouls down the left side.hing, when you look at his pitches, he's got a tremendous slider too. >> yeah, he does. he has a slider and changeup. he's got a good record. he was closer in college. we believe he can start too. he can close too. that will eliminate a pitcher or too. the thing was that day he was an easy bullpen. our scouts told me he can go all the way to 97 if he has to. >> rob: give him a little adrenaline and i think he'll pump that up. i want to talk about detwiler yesterday. he did a great job and kept the team in the ballgame. he is makes great strides. >> he is. he did an outstanding job yesterday. he made a mistake here or there. he had a tremendous game. >> rob: that was the point i was going to make. in spring training, i was told one thing. when i met the guy, he had this look in his eye like he means business. >> he has been pitching like he belongs here he believes in himself. we like what we've seen so far especially the breaking ball. it's exciting to see that the future is bright her

now, with the struggles that shairon martis has had lately, it makes sense for stammen to stay in the be made after the game. we will have all the details for you on "nats xtra." in other news, the nats walked minor leaguers with the seattle mariners. for infielder mike morris. >> bob: thank you. ryan langerhans had d so succleague level. right now the number one national, they're thinking about, is john lannan. six nings, one run on four hits. he's given up three walks and the orioles only made him pa for one of those, as he walked the lead-off man in the first, second and thel face luke scott salazar and matt witr he in the orioles 7th. >>im p.: don't you think he's pitching the way he's pitched all june? >> rob: even going back farther, when he started to really step up as the acof the staff, there was a couple ogames where he was getting 3 and 4 double plays in the game. sometimes he'd stay out there and give up his first win of the season, he gave up six runs early. stayed out there for six, seven innings and we ended up coming back when the offense s clicking and he got h

it will be shairon martis against jeremy guthrie tomorrow that is game two in the three- game series.overage at 6:30 with "o's xtra" presented by at&t on masn hd. "nats xtra" presented by verizon wireless on masn two. for john carp -- bob carp per, jim hunter saying so long from camden yards. the orioles win 11-1. have a great night, everybody. we'll see you tomorrow! >> hi, everybody. time for nats' extra postgame here brought to you by the verizon fios. let's close the door on this one quickly, forget about it and think about tomorrow's game coming up tomorrow night. this was ugly. >> it was ugly, johnny. you're going to have 10, 12 a year. detwiler actually tale threw the ball well early. they got one run and then all thins just broke loose and the offense was just hitting on all cylinders. they didn't hit the ball extremely hard. it wasn't the long ball. it was just the contact. detwiler when he he did make a mistake, a couple of choppers, deflected balls. it doesn't make any difference. you can't take it away from them. they pounded out, what, 16 hit ? >> 16 hits, and it is the f

shairon martis looking on. >> rob: a 1.04 e.r.a. in 14 games into the season. our pitching staff has really turned the corner. as i said today, steve mccatty issed howing these guy -- is holding these guys accountable for their performances. >> johnny: and zimmerman draws another walk. today we are kind of giving you up close and personal. my good friends at home depot with adam dunn and his mom has some thoughts about her son. >> we never knew what to expect with adam. when he was 18-month-olds, he hid in the fireplace from me. couldn't find him for that minutes and he opened the glass doors and said hi, momma. >> johnny: and his mom was thrilled. how about that. hiding in the fireplace. >> rob: yeah. >> johnny: there's some ammunition next time you see adam. zimmerman at first. carlos fisher facing his first batter walks him. so, dunn against fisher now with a man at first. the tying run down there. pretty good numbers in the 7th inning or later for dunn. walk, struck out swinging and flew out to center. i know how nice it is for adam to have his mom and dad

shairon martis went down to the minor leagues, but tonight an audition for possibly staying in the rotation >> bob: with more on the rotation, debbi taylor. >> debbi: bob, craig stammen has faced tough lineups, the giants, mets and the yankees. i asked manny acta how much of a confidence booster that can be for him. >> i believe he has. the fact he has pitched against those clubs and what they will do to give us enough innings, give us a chance to win, i think it can only help them. i think it helps these guys haven't seen him. if he can get out there and pound that sinker in the strike zone like he's done in the past, he could give as you good outing here. >> debbi: manny would like to have him improve the second and third time through the lineup. opponents are hitting .250 and 4 -- .415 against him. craig told me he's work on his mental approach and intends to pitch backyards a -- backwards a bit. >> bob: hope three no, more3-2 changeups to power hitters. when know when the pitching is better, the defense is better. it might be the wizardry of zimmerman or the good play combinations up th

shairon martis is right up there with 13 with are karakma of atlanta. a line drive.erson hernandez, yeah, you hit it near that kid, he'll catch t he's proven that. again, i ducked into manny's office after the ballgame last night, we chatted for a minute about what anderson hernandez did early in that game last night, rob. when he made those two plays, that sent a message to craig stammen i don't have to be afraid to let this lineup with all these stars hit the ball. >> rob: absolutely. it gives you confidence that if you make a mistake rand somebody hits the heck out it have like say a-rod in the seventh inning, somebody will be there to pick it up and catch t if you make an error, you're on the other side to pick them up. that's what teamwork is all about. wrarz, -- willie harris, that was one of the best catches i've ever seen. >> bob: yeah, aaron hill struck out first time up. with a little investigative reporting, debbi, i assume that was shaving cream and not whip keep last night. >> debbi: it was shaving cream. i told the guys you need to invest in whip cream

. >> shairon martis, john lannan and craig stammen combine for only three earned runs in that seriesgainst the yankees. what do you think of this young rotation so far? >> i think it's young. you said it. you know, it's starting to come around, we think. if they can continue to keep us in a ballgame, we'll definitely turn thing around. you know, we're getting really good pitching and playing good defense. that's why we won the last two games. >> speaking of defense, just for yourself, what are you doing to improve on your defense ?p. >> just trying to go out there early and work every day and just trying to do the same thing and just repetition. >> now that you're just going to be in left field, does that make it easier knowing you won't have to shift positions quite as much? >> i think so. i think you can focus on one instead of three. you know, to me that would probably make sense that it would be a lot easier. so, you know, it's just kind of one of those things, work in progre.s i'll probably play first every once in a while i would imagine. just take some grounders over there. >>

nats bats were cooking a little bit in that first inning to give shairon martis a little 2- 0 lead. >we came out smoking. you're setting up a situation where you might score five or six runs. guzman singles to center field. wright here, line drive has guthrie throwing that sinker down. zimmerman walks. walks dunn-for-an rbi. you've already got one in, bases loaded, nobody out, you've got to get a good ball to hit. this man does. josh bard walks. two runs scored, both of them via rbi walks. then we didn't do anything after that. it's the fourth inning. willie hits his second double of the ballgame. kearns singles to left on the first big base hit he's had in a long time. and that put us up. at that point 3-1, but that's it other than the missed opportunities which we're going to show you in a moment. >> was happy to see austin kearns get his 16th rbi of the season. willie harris a base hit tonight, a single, a run. ryan zimmerman not enough hits tonight, only 8 for the nats. we have talked about opportunities. the nationals had plenty of chances to get some runs tonight. we've seen thi

. >> rob: including tonight, shairon martis has walked 48 batters on the season and only struck out 31. so that's a way backward strikeout to walks ratio. >> bob: i did notice in the first inning when he threw those 23 pitches, almost everything he threw was over the plate. he just kept missing low. so it's not like he was all over the place. >> rob: his best game of the season by far was against st. louis, the complete game, and he changed eye level throughout the game. fastballs all the way up the ladder. lately it's been a lot of this. throwing in that nice little box, the shoe box, and not really expanding the zone too much. not up or down. >> bob: that's right on the inside corner, it appeared, and he doesn't get the call from doug eddings. >> jim p.: doug, i think he's still -- how do you not call that pitch a strike? wow. >> bob: if you can't get that, it's tough to pitch up here. >> jim p.: if bard was hitting low and away and had to reach back across the plate, but it was right to the glove. >> bob: he gets him low. had the left-hander reaching, aubrey huff 0 for 1 with a walk

kind of like shairon martis. he finished up about 29 39 walks and 32 strikeouts. that's not the kind of ratio you want. west came into tonight, 24 strikeouts, 18 walks in 40 innings. he's a big, strong kid, but you have to throw strikes at this level. >> bob: leadoff man, guzman next. he's gone 2-1 on the pitcher stammen. that ball -- well, fortunately, we heard a thud. that means it hit off the padding in the marlins dugout. that was scrambling some guys. a tradition of innovation isfirestone. road e.r.a.s by rookies. out of play. so, stammen stays long enough in the batter's box for us to get down to his e.r.a., number five, 2.70 on the road. he's a true professional. he's still looking for that first rbi. if mariano rivera can get one sunday night after all those years, how about a rookie getting one. elijah dukes singled to lead off this inning. advanced on a grounder by wil nieves after alberto gonzalez flied out. 3-2. 14 pitches first inning for sean west. stammen had 14 pitches over seven strikes in his first inning. now it's turned into a long, top of the

shairon martis began the season with so much on his shoulders that everybody just raving about this guy. he's kind of gone on a down slope a little bit, ray. maybe he'll work at things at syracuse and be back with the ball club in no time at all. >> he was not a known commodity coming out of spring training, went around the league, amassed a five hit. now he's not pitched efficient. he's throwing 20 pitches an inning. right at # hundred pitches last night. in only five innings. his change-up is great. if you look at his earned run average over the last five starts, it's not bad, but his walks, 16, with only 8 strikeouts. so that's where he's having his troubles. getting to a lot of 3-2 counts, extending the at-bats for these hitters, then they're able to mount runs on him, and he doesn't miss very many bats either. he just doesn't strike out a lot of people. so he's a finesse pitcher with a pretty good fastball, change- up, breaking ball. i'm not sure what they're working on, but i'm sure it's throwing the ball in a better spot and making better locations. >> and he did win his first fi

. >> rob: the release point of shairon martis right here. you see his picking up his target. nice follow through. this morning i was watching tom davis, phil wood and dave johnson doing their radio stuff. in the minor leagues you're hitting 4th, here you're hitting 7th or 8th because you're not going to knock markakis or aubrey huff out of that 3-4 area. >> jim p.: reimold had one of those great springs. he led the team with six home runs. he quieted things down when he came back up. he can let the ball travel a little bit longer, pitch recognition. steve out to have a little conversation. >> rob: and this won't be a pretty one either. it will be one of the things i've talked to steve about is challenging people with your best stuff. not getting beat with your second or third best pitch. but if you fall behind every hitter, you're going to get killed. you can't pitch like that at the big league level. >> bob: you were talking about hoping a young pitcher doesn't think too much. i'm wondering, here's a guy after seven starts was 5-0, over his last seven starts, hasn't won. >>

shairon martis coming off a rough outing.scored upon early and often by toronto sunday and jeremy guthrie, 5-7, trying to get that e.r.a. down. in fact, both of them over 5.00. >> jim: guthrie coming off a good start where he beat cole hamels 2-1, the orioles sweeping the last weekend series up in philadelphia. >> bob: here is josh bard swiping a great bat an