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. >> shaka, i want you to hold your thought. josh with dubois, what to you make of this question of drugs? it didn't come into this trial, but i think it seems like it's a big reason i'm hearing that there's so many young blacks in jail and it's just a fact we ought to look at it. >> yeah, you know, it gets back to how we see young african-american men and boys in this country and that's related to the zimmerman trial. i mean, the fact of the matter is, when george zimmerman looked at trayvon martin, he saw a nameless, faceless hoodie. he didn't see a young boy with hopes and dreams. he didn't see a son, a brother, a nephew. he saw some kid that was, to him, seemed aggressive or suspicious. and then a few minutes later, she shot that kid in the chest. and, unfortunately, there are a lot of folks that are like george zimmerman. they're not monsters, but they just done understand young african-american men and boys. then folks from all different races and background. i wrote about this in a piece for "newsweek" called "a fight for

in fact, when we would see each other, and i did not, as shaka has said, have an -- chaka has is a -- has said have an opportunity to serve with him. but i'd see this pastor and that pastor and it gave me a sense of friendship but also a sense of connectedness to bill by saying, they like you too or they said hello as well. because bill was so respected. if i might say on this floor that bill gray was a child of god. and although we're going to say so many things about him, i think it is appropriate to say that he loved his church and his ministry and my pastors across texas are praying for his family. i just want to cite a few things that i think are so much a part of his nadarkhani and his legacy -- dna and his legacy. to be able to be -- d.n.a. and his legacy. to be able to be a son of a mother and father who were prema -- premier educators in the life of historically black colleges. to see him carry their leadership and move it to the united negro college fund, which is how i came to know him, having not served with him, in his work, but i knew him earlier, to my good friend from