then access to masterpieces, the sort of series of books where you have the suit -- the place of shakespeare etc of being partea of contemporary culture disappeared out of that equation. i would say it is our fault as well because we kind of cultivated that image. i want to ask this question only because the next time i see you, or the next time you come on this program, i want to advance this conversation. you suggested earlier in the conversation that classical is not the right word and you don't really like this word, but you don't have a different word for it. tell me what we are going in search of. we may discover a word somewhere down the road. tell me what we are looking for. >> we are dealing with music that is being played by traditional instruments, and mostly by orchestra in a specifically built building called a concert hall. but classical -- the reference is wrong. mozart,and it refers to haydn, beethoven, which is of fine period, but it was a while ago. on the other hand it believes to some kind of class, which is not true and is detrimental to the whole idea. the important thing i

>> when shakespeare wrote history, the motivating force was character defect, jealousy, etc. ybe shakespeare got it wrong. maybe he had it right. governor reagan decided to have george bush to be vice president. >> it seems to me that decision had gone a slightly different way, he would have been future president of the united states. >> it's possible. >> how do you think they got away with 9/11? it seems amazing in retrospect. >> everything seems amazing in retrospect. stuff happens. free people are free to make mistakes. to do bad things. they are also free to live their lives and do wonderful things. you have to pick and choose. to the tent you pick and choose and you are wrong, the penalty can be enormous. knowns. unknown that is to say, things that you think you know, that it turns out you did not. >> that is the trailer for the new documentary, "the unknown known." it's director errol morris is with us now. this is the 10th documentary feature he has made. maker of "thee fog of war: eleven lessons from the life of robert s. mcnamara." his other films include "standard op