aren't there latino doctors and nurses and teachers et cetera, et cetera, and it made me think of shanda grimes is one of the biggest in hollywood, and she has been criticized for having diversity just for the sake of having diversity and having it be hollow. people in minority communities say those people don't represent us in a true way. they don't reflect our experiences as a minority. is there a bridge for just casting for the sake of casting diversity? >> that's an interesting question. i don't know if -- you know, chandra rice would probably answer that better than i can. i'm not sure why it's in her particular case that's -- that's how it has worked out. i go back to saying in the end if you want to really attack this question, we need to attack the idea of where the funding is coming from, where the finances are coming from, and that's why i keep going back to this idea of taking back the -- the -- the backbone of this industry, which is the finances, and how do you do that is to me the more interesting question. and we need to tackle that, i think more if you want . -- to see the chang