atrlie: this was recorded shangrila studios in los angeles. conor: rick rubens owns it.: you seem like you're to the outside world but at the same time you have a attitude.-it-comes conor: i've always felt sort of isky with my career which like i never really -- charlie: set out to do something? conor: i never really got that famous or got into a position where there was like -- and of are some pressures but basically i've always kind of -- we started off in omaha own record label and we did that for years and kind of stuff like -- every little milestone was celebrated great.is is it was the opposite of like an overnight success. that ilt like i'm lucky feel like because it's been so even if it plateaus into just, i can keep -- to me, more important than at this point for sure than like elsed sales or anything you're going to do. i hope to be still writing songs and playingecords for people. i'm 37. so i hope, i look up to guys like -- charlie: rolling stones. any ofbruce or neil or those guys. thisu can still be doing stuff. charlie: in their 70's? conor: that would be