before all that, avril found inspiration in another famous singer, shania twain who also faced her ownth lyme disease. >> you tolder, i'm going to be a famous singer. >> i was 14 years old. there was a contest to tape a tape of yourself singing. i won, and met shania and sang on stafelt like home, so right >> man, canadian royalty right there. get celine dion in there and you wouldn't know what to do with yourself. >>> earlier we talked about r. kelly, all the attention and his initial arrest last month came after the explosive r. kelly documentary aired and before that, true crime docs such as "making a murderer" and "the jinx" helped sign a light on controversial and sometimes overlooked cases. i'm really into true crime. >> i know. season one of npr's podcast "serial" was downloaded by 171 million people, now hbo's followup to "serial" is hoping to become one of the game-changing documentaries itself. >> i was one of the millions of people that was obsessed with the "serial" podcast. >> the jury, they moved like lightning. >> into a murder mystery. now in "the case against adnan sye

when shania twain came out i was just obsessed with her.un ♪ ♪ oh, oh, oh, totally crazy >> in all fields in our society now women, i wouldn't say dominating. i think that they're just rising to their true place. ♪ i feel like a woman [ cheers ] >> as things wore on, it became a great decade to be a girl. ♪ >> after years of singing backup for such stars as michael jackson and rod stewart, she exploded onto the music scene in 1993 with her album "tuesday night music club." ♪ all i wanna do is have some fun ♪ ♪ i've got a feeling i'm not the only one ♪ >> radio has been so long in coming playing female artists. so, it's definitely a different sort of environment and attitude now. ♪ if it makes you happy >> female artists like sheryl crow or liz phair, even though they had success they were still routinely marginalized within every aspect of the industry. there was not a lot of space in pop culture for a young woman's thoughts, feelings, voices, to be respected or taken seriously. ♪ i'm just a girl >> there was such a strange dichotomy to gwe

shania twain. [ cheers ] >> jimmy: yeah, shania twain was great! i love that.ll when i get distance from it. t''cause just for so long, been like, we have been in it, you know? i would watch before we would write. i be like, what is this show and where are we going? >> jimmy: to get in the head space, yeah. >> yonh. bu it airs, i'm kind of like, it is my past. [ laughter ] but now, i think -- i'm excite to reflect on it. honestly, im like -- it's my favorite show, okay? and i can't wait to binge watch this show. it was made for me. u know? [ laughter ] it reall-- jimmy: it is made for you. >> it's the best show, i love it. it's my favorite. >> jimmy: what was the last episode like to write? 'cause you and abbi jacobson wrote it together, right? >> yeah. so, abbi jacobson, mn, my work wife, my partner and, also, paul w. downs and lucia aniello are writers, acto, directors, we wrote, like, the outline together. but abbi and i took this script wd when we were writing i were sitting across the table from each other. i have never had an experience like this. we were