i'm joined now by shanker singham, a trade expert who chairs the technical panel of the alternative arrangementsment. he also flags up some of his concerns and says the report you put to them it was full of holes and the system, dissident all ireland system forfood system, dissident all ireland system for food and agriculture, it would mean that ireland would have to leave the common market will stop this is not a bilateral discussion he says, we are the european union and he's not, it's not us that will leave the common market. just to pick up on some of the things he said, we did with him earlier on in the year injuly when our report came out. first of all, as he knows, there's no technology in his report that has not been invented yet. these are things that are done procedurally all over the world. and we have basically suggested things that include things like a programme with preclearance checks away from the border, what we are trying to do is ensure that there is no physical infrastructure on the border and no checks and controls the border. the reality is that the only real concerns peop