get this amazing film by shannon harvey. we are to go back to the film and an excerpt of our interview with shannon. if you call in now, 866-359-4334 -- we cannot do this without you. only together. you know, one of the people featured in this film is john cap it's in, some law of -- john cabotson. he is amazing as a writer and person who works in teaching stressed-out sick people how to meditate. he does it in boston. he runs a mindfulness-based stress reduction center which he first developed in 1979. he said the deep structure of these practices -- they have been around for thousands and thousands of years. they have had value for a very longtime. that is why they have survived. this is what shannon brings out in this film, talking with remarkable practitioners around the world. 866-359-4334. we're going to go to the interview with shannon per first, this next excerpt of the film with the head of emergency medicine and a major australian hospital where one day, while doing rounds, he felt a strange sensation in his feet. i