with this technology despite some challenges, glad you are both with us tonight. >> i need starbucks. shannon. this is the woman who refused to wear the mask, to help the barista who told her no. she said i didn't get permission to use my photo, calling me a karen, using my name and profiting money, i have been attacked for speaking of her for our rights, the day da and hipaa privacy rights. these people didn't have a right to use my image to raise 100,$000. >> but they do. you are the one who posted that. i am reminded of joe biden when he said come on, man. this is the ultimate in chutzpah, the ultimate cash grab. at the end of the they remind me what we learned, the kid who kills both of his parents and then throws himself on the mercy of the court because he's an orphan. it is a cash grab. it is disgusting. you are the one who posted it, karen. sean: that is the example we learn in law school. exhibit b, matt cohan, a friend of the barista who refuse her service set up to go fund me page, personally i think amber is seeking to profit off of a good deed that i did in raising a fundraiser.