i'm joined now by shannon watts, the founder of moms demand action for gun sense in america. >> good morning. >> there were 28 school shootings in all of 2013, this month already there's been seven school shootings, now we've had this mall shooting in maryland. what's going on here? >> well, it appears that our schools when they close for the weekend, the shootings move to the malls of america. it's just unfortunate what's happening. we've had a shooting every other school day so far this year. we are on par to have over 80 school shootings in american schools in 2014. it's unacceptable. american mothers should not live in fear that our children are in jeopardy of being faced by gun violence in places where they work, where they study, where they play, and we expect congress to step up and do something to stop these horrendous shootings that are happening so frequently. >> but i wonder if exactly what we're talking about, the frequency of these, shannon, in some ways works against people like you who are trying to get new laws on the books. let me play for you what new jersey