6 of 15 which is the rural cooperative loan program we authorized over $3 billion for arby eft's shanta date not a single penny has been spent and that program can be directed to help the hander sir. we would very much like to see that programs muscle used as will's the other federal agencies in helping us glean what we can, not waste when piece of fruit, one vegetable this year to process that and i think if we work across the government we can get it then. would you be willing to work with us in ohio and in michigan looking at your broad authorities in order to do that? >> represented absolutely and i would tell you that we have been working on a program within usda which is indeed thinking outside the box, which will be entitled, know your farmer, know your food and the purpose is to try to directly link local production of local consumption and not just farmers markets but institutional consumers. when you do that, in fact i was in philadelphia yesterday visiting with folks about this program that they have been philadelphia. what you do if you have to take a look at the entire supp