. >> shanta. >> she was just somebody who i wanted to give a french name too. we thought it was time for a french name in the family. it means to seeing it clearly. -- sing clearly. >> kismet. >> shanta was supposed to be the last child. i said this is kismet. that is how she got that name. she is 22. is named for a great lawyer. he was named atticus omega. alpha and omega were done. people said, you may want to change that. we did end up with one more amazing daughter, sunday phoenix. sunday was the end of the week's worth of children. if i wouldn't know me would have seven, i would have named them, would then name them sunday, monday. -- i would have named them sunday, monday. she was think the knicks because she was born -- was named it the next pitch was born after my husband's was in that tough campaign. the phoenix is a wonderful symbol. >> you lost the 2010 race. >> i lost in the democratic primary to a woman by the name of anne custer. it was a good experience. in the primaries and both parties, it is increasingly the case that people who are probably m