today we got a chance to speak to shantu, the sharm of adobe and look at this because this is one ofhat does make something and it does produce great revenue, great earnings. >> i have to tell you, you're a breath of fresh air. people have been saying there is not much happening out here. you are a person of innovation and creativive please give me courage that things will soon excite us. >> jim, it is great to be back on the show and great to be back in person. >> it is big. >> it is been a long time. and innovation is alive and well at adobe you are talk about so many different things that i'm sure we'll touch on what is happening with creativity and everybody still wanting to use different media types and devices to communicate their ideas. what is happening with people trying to power digital businesses and the metaverse and so there is just so much that is happening in tech. i think the sentiment has changed a little bit where, you know if the sentiment was all about the explosive tech businesses that were not necessarily profitable, i think it is changed a little bit to -- >> p